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Edited by Scuph:
10/17/2015 1:33:02 PM
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Another 9 Month Meta?
if you play any crucible it is clear the new "Thorn and Last Word" are Red death and Bad Juju. the difference between this though is that legendary hand cannons weren't the op ones it was just the 2 exotics but in the case of the pulse rifles the legendaries are just as op. they are best at all ranges flinch everyone else more they they get flinch and can roll full auto making them low skill, low ttk weapons.
Do pulse rifles need to be looked at or should we wait another 9 months?
its funny how i never said nerf but that is what you guys go to, maybe if we want to leave pulses then the others need a buff.
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Im having no trouble at all taking them out with my zhalo supercell.
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Bungies idea of diversity just make the same weapon, but give it lots of different names
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Edited by Baron Von Bubba: 10/18/2015 6:51:45 PMI guess the way bungie do thier balancing can easily cause these issues. They look at the numbers they collect from the many crucible matches played and act accordingly. Unfortunately if everyone is using the op weapons of the time, then the figures are not really worth much. Everyone using thorn and TLW, obviously they need nerfing but too few ppl using the other weapon types for real comparison. Bungie really need small changes implemented often. Big changes infrequently will always mean a lack of true balance. Especially when the change/patch is brought in at the same time as introducing a lot more new weapons.
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Bad juju was good before the rebalance!
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Pulse rifles were always good, no one used them because everyone was using thorn and last word.
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People are still used to how shitty pulse rifles were, now auto-rifles are semi-trash and pulses are on top with scouts. They're exotics, yes they're going to be good.
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Edited by bigdeeztrankle: 10/18/2015 2:38:50 PMI can outgun both of those guns so I'm not bothered. Plus pulses are worse now than in the house of wolves. The range and stability u could get on monsters like the hopscotch and messenger are unmatched, and the recoil patterns were up and down making it easy to get headshots. Now in ttk recoil patterns pull to the right or left on the most stable guns, like the hawksaw, nirwens mercy, the villainy, etc. Making it harder to get that last critical hit.
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I never had a problem with last word or thorn, and I don't see a problem with red death or bad juju. I used a hawkmoon then and I use a hawkmoon now.
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Red Death and Bad Juju kill me pretty rarely and when they do, its because I got outplayed. Don't immediately blame the weapons.
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Pulse rifles have been nasty since the last weapon tuning, this is nothing new, the last iron banner was called "red" banner by everyone on here in response to the weapon tuning
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They're not as bad but still there is evidently a small balancing issue, also all the people who still use last word, just stop.
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Compared to thorn and tlw, they are so much easier to counter.
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Its funny because hardly anyone at all used pulse rifles before they got an entirely unnecessary buff. I personally can't stand burst fire weapons so I never used to use them. Now Red Death pretty much stays on my Hunter and it tears anus in Crucible
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Biased poll is biased
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5 RepliesThey aren't even that good dude, hawksaw and scouts are all fairly balanced. ARs and HCs need a range buff. Not to what they were at before 2.0 but more than they have now. Aim assist should be lowered across the board. Besides that I say we are fairly balanced.
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7 RepliesHand cannon hit boxes need a buff. It's all kinds of weird. I notice that even though the reticle is on the target that the bullets don't hit a lot of the time. Weird. Also sidearms sometimes have bullet lag, but I get it with that gun type only.
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27 RepliesMy nirwens mercy can out perform both weapons. Easily.
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Edited by GuardianzofWar: 10/17/2015 10:42:44 PMThe IB pulse rifle is a monster...better than Hacksaw imo.
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I don't see red death often, and I see badjuju even less. I'm not worried about those 2. What I'm worried about is the rocket launcher my titan has. The suros Jlg 47 or whatever it is. Horse shows and rockets everywhere all over again. Thankfully it doesn't have tracking.
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2 RepliesHonestly if you buff range on handcannons and ARs slightly and maybe a slight decrease in PR range everything will be good. Definitely a better meta. You can compete with most any weapon type.
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2 RepliesThose those guns aren't overpowered honestly guys you're probably complaining because you're dying by that gun a lot now. That gun is easy to counter if you have good aim it's only a two to three shot burst depending on what range are at.
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WhAt about hawk moon and shotguns, they need to be looked at first as they have been in power much longer, although i used to only use pulse rifles and now refuse to as they are the strongest
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They need to fix lag first. Only then can they pursue weapon balance.
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What about the 2 year shotgun meta?
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Dose the red death or bad juju have a .26 ttk I think not. Op is mad he can't get kills with it.
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Prs are worse now than before ttk Handcannons just arnt as good now so more people are using them And NO pr is as bad as the rampant use of thorn
