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10/1/2015 8:33:07 PM
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Please explain how. I've completed the raid 4 to 5 times and not in one instance have anyone on my team ever wanted a warlock. I'm not hating on warlocks, their my second favorite class they're just not useful in this raid. None one instance where a warlock is useful and I bet I can counter the argument.
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for one we have tlaloc exclusive so we have an incredibly high dps gun handed out by gunsmith Any parkour including daughters or oryx The all around useful sunsinger for res or dps higher than the hammer stormcaller for orb making and add control best at oryx golgroth and war priest Oh and don't forget about voidwalker orb generation
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[quote]for one we have tlaloc exclusive so we have an incredibly high dps gun handed out by gunsmith Any parkour including daughters or oryx The all around useful sunsinger for res or dps higher than the hammer stormcaller for orb making and add control best at oryx golgroth and war priest Oh and don't forget about voidwalker orb generation[/quote] 1) it's only good if you have your super changed, which means your withholding your super and your orbs for your gun to be above average, and the touch of malice us better for dps 2) warlocks are the slowest class in the game, so no 3) res is only useful if you or your team is bad, and a bubble Titan with weapons of light with combined dps from your team will be much higher than a any single warlock will be able to produce. Even if you already have a bubble Titan, a hunter with tethering or a golden gun with nighthawk will produce more dps as well. 4) both hunters and Titans can consistently make more orbs than a warlock. I do have to give it to you about the add control, but it's not needed if you have a decent team and considering the benefits of the other classes it would still be better to have a Titan or warlock. 5) again both Titans and hunters can more constantly make more orbs.
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Edited by Kuraishi Sol: 10/2/2015 9:20:51 AM1) you don't use your super much during bosses 2) warlock have the easiest and simplest jump mechanic don't know why you care about speed 3) combined sun singer still has higher dps 4) will be more prevalent in hardmode 5) void walker in specific creates more orbs Also right now the raid is too easy compared to older raids so class doesn't matter, unless they severely buff hardmode like I'm hoping
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[quote]1) you don't use your super much during bosses 2) warlock have the easiest and simplest jump mechanic don't know why you care about speed 3) combined sun singer still has higher dps 4) will be more prevalent in hardmode 5) void walker in specific creates more orbs Also right now the raid is too easy compared to older raids so class doesn't matter, unless they severely buff hardmode like I'm hoping[/quote] 1) if you're a warlock. Hunters and Titans are using their super whenever it's time to dps the boss. 2) no, all the jumps are easy. Faster the class, the faster you get the orb= more time to set up/ dps 3) um no, where do you get that? So you have 6-13 more grenades and do around 10% more damage vs 6 people doing 20-25% more damage just if you have a bubble. Then it's about 15% more damage for all six people with a teather. I think the math is pretty clear. Then the more hunters and Titans you have the more often you'll be able to use them. 4) sure it will, we aren't talking about hard mode though are we? And either way, only if you or or team is bad. 5) ok I've lost faith in your judgement on this subject with this comment. Voidwalkers are terrible with orb generation unless you're using obsidian mind, and all the enemies have to be grouped up which really doesn't happen a whole lot in this raid, and even still a nightstalker is the king of orb generation.
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Again those really are not valid
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They're perfectly valid. Can you not see past you're own pride? Warlocks are just not very useful for this raid. No raid will suffer without one.
