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Edited by Flyby Slayer: 9/30/2015 5:12:13 PM
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Will Touch of Malice become a raid requirement?

So I got Touch of Malice the other day and I love it, so I decided to use it during Oryx. When you have the immortality, you can use the final shot (which does double damage and never runs out) for as long as you want, so everyone can do high amounts of damage to Oryx. Do you think it will become a raid requirement? Edit 1: 300 replies and lots of good feedback! I can tell a lot of people for want it but it may be good to use if you're the one running relic. Edit 2: just wanna put out there that for all the people who don't have ToM, it is a very good and dependable gun. For those calling it trash, I can say with certainty that is false. Edit 3: Jesus we're at 1100. Does anyone think it'll be extremely important in hard mode?
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  • Requiring a player to have a weapon that can only be obtained from doing King's Fall in order to participate in King's Fall is just dumb. I mean sure, it's a symbol that the player has completed the raid and is competent, or has competent friends. But to say no you can't play this raid because you haven't played this raid is kinda dumb. Each raid group right now should be endeavoring to bring at least one or two players who haven't completed the raid through with them. If they're actually dumb /useless and they just don't get what's going on after constant direction boot them for sure, but give people a chance. Give yourselves a challenge. It's a great way to make new friends and heck, that lower light player who hasn't done the raid yet might just suprise you, they could even be a player with more skill, and by passing them over you are losing out on someone who can have your back in the hard mode.

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  • Not sure. It absolutely destroys the deathsingers though

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  • Stupid crackers are asking for malice as a requirement with the emblem

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  • Why wouldn't you want the touch of malice? Takes less than 4 hours(if your slow) to get. You have a ton of videos that show you how to get everything you need for it and it benefits the group. WIN-WIN

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    • Its good, but there is no chance it gets to be a requirement. If you have three theres no chance you can mess up his stagger

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    • I also find it funny that ppl think snipers can out dps ToM. You only have at max 22 shots plus you need to reload at every 4, plus low RoF re adjusting the aim to get the crit whereas ToM goes on forever. Is it a mandatory for the raid? Of course not but don't make a invalid argument stating the weapon is useless cause a so call "good sniper" can out preform it l cause they cant.

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      • No but it will be a preference. If the raid is done easily with snipers then there is no need for elitist requirement of ToM. But i have it and cant wait to try it on them all.

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      • It's not a requirement, but it's better than any other weapon for oryx and the deathsingers.

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      • Hard mode most likely.. I'm still missing that last calcified fragment for the quest, and it's frustrating the hell out of me.

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      • Edited by Nox: 10/3/2015 10:29:43 PM
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        Hard mode for sure Currently ToM does 300k+ on each daughter where snipers do between 100k-300k at max

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      • In hard mode probably

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      • People who call it trash probably keep dying because they can't compensate for the loss of health. :D It's a situational gun though.

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        • I hope people make it a requirement just like gjallarhorn then bungie will have to nerf it. That would be funny

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        • It shouldn't. You don't even need snipers to do proper dps on oryx Maybe if that person doesn't have a sniper?

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        • Two of us used it today to beat Oryx. It was nice. But a requirement? I do not see it becoming a requirement in the near future. I look forward to what the Hard Raid will have. It may be necessary then.

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        • im getting it for my collection but its NOT needed. a good sniper is still more important for the entire raid

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        • Hell no.

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        • Its a very situational weapon, I like to pull it out on boss encounters with a weapons of light titans. Completely melts their health.

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        • Used it for the first time yesterday. Is it as important as knowing the fights? No. Does it make things quicker with dps? Absolutely.

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        • Hard mode definitely

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        • I dont think so. It shines in the encounters with the weaver but that is it really.

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        • Edited by Must Have Gally: 10/3/2015 10:07:59 PM
          Probably for hard mode

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        • Yeah me and my friend have the Malice and it makes the raid 10x easier. It will most certainly become a raid requirement for hard mode. 2 people with the malice is amazing, imagine a full raid team with it?

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          • It might be required for hard. Who knows? Lol. Malice does work against oryx and you save sniper ammo

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          • Edited by Matt Boy52: 10/3/2015 9:38:03 PM
            I got a really bad feeling that either Touch of Malice or Sleeper Stimulant when it becomes available is going to be the raid crutch that Ghallarhorn was.[spoiler]And if they are that good, I wouldn't be surprised if Bungie nerfs them a little while after hard mode Kings Fall is out, at least for ToM, we don't know how good the Sleeper Stimulant is yet.[/spoiler]

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          • Yes

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