Not only that but this too... Where's the dedicated servers? Where's the optional matchmaking? Where's the better rng? Where's the taken content? Where's the point of doing Crota, VOG or HOW gone? Where's the raid for HOW? Where's all the power in my legendary and exotic guns gone that took me forever to aquire? Where's the story...still? Where's the currencies I grinded to get? Where's the big open world we were supposed to have access to? Where's the ban on cheaters in crucible? (and not just the few that did get banned) Where's Joe Staten gone? (You know, the one that would have made this game last 10 years and made EVERYONE, really throw crazy amounts of money at the screen) Where's your ethical business practice gone bungie? Where has the old bungie gone? (You know, the ones that made Halo and Halo 2) Where has your innovation gone bungie? (and I'm not talking about shiny enemies or enemies that have cloak shields like the old elites) Where's all the good ideas from SO MANY guardians gone? (Like Lost Sols or Malphisto or countless others) Where has your ability to make a quality game gone without charging $100 to $160 for an obvious beta that needs the customers input to complete? (Even though you've had 10 years to make it) Oh, wait...I know... Bungie is not what they used to be without Joe Staten and the MANY designers that were there during the halo days. There is no trust because they(bungie) have demonstrated THEY can NOT be trusted time and time again. Bungie has shown that they, on MANY occasions, they either ignore A LOT of good ideas from many people like Malphisto, a whole bunch of others and even Lost Sols, whom have had outstanding ideas...or that they are either incompetent or just unable to implement those ideas. Innovative rather than planned obsolescence or extortion/ponzi scheme/pay wall tactics Right!? https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/157307267/0/0 But yet they can make purple balls glow at the tower and patch loot caves and fix "issues" with posts going missing REAL quick, sometimes within the same day! But yet the BIG issues go unnoticed or not even acknowledged! Issues like dedicated servers and fixing obvious lag with pvp and even pve. Optional matchmaking...don't get me started...upgradeable year 1 gear. Vault space. The loot system. REMOVAL of content for non ttk buyers. Many more issues still. But I just listed the big ones. And through all of this, what has been bungies approach to the issues they have fixed? 1 step forward and 2 steps back. And I'm not talking about Paula Abduls song neither. For every fix they create more issues, like with the increase in vault space. It was nice and should have been implemented since launch...but was instantly nullified with all the gear they made obsolete with ttk. Then again what do they care when they got our money? Previous currencies nullified with the next dlc. What do they care when they got our money? An obvious beta game for $60 to $100 was sold to us but yet they talk of potential with ttk, when it is WAY PAST the potential part. Day 1 should have been the proof! But what do they care when they have our money? HOW was bought by many just before ttk. And now all of HOW, Crota and VOG is pointless. Almost all the exotics we have now...some of them just recently found...less powerful than any green or blue weapon in ttk! But what do they care, they have our money? We ask for optional matchmaking and their response? Remove some matchmaking! Cause they already have our money! Bungie has shown to us that as long as we continue to give them money, they can make any changes they want regardless if we asked for it or not, why? Because we agreed to their terms when we gave them more money. So...it's fairly obvious that no matter how many great ideas are presented to bungie...no matter how many fixes are brought to their attention...they simply don't care because they know that a lot of people are going to throw money at the screen. They have shown their intentions through their actions and in most cases, inaction! The [b][i]ONLY[/i][/b] thing that [b][i]WILL[/i][/b] motivate bungie and activision to change for the better and learn how to treat their customers is a [b][i]BOYCOTT.[/i][/b] I simply refuse to pay $100 for a beta game and then tell them how to make said game better. I refuse to pay them to do THEIR job! Why should we have to pay to help make a game that SHOULD have been made ALREADY? We didn't have to pay to help make Halo or Halo 2 did we? And why should we pay to only have the rug pulled from under our feet with every "update" or dlc? So...until bungie and activision learn how to treat their customers and fix the big issues with the game I will certainly not give them more money...I will instead... [b][i]BOYCOTT BUNGIE AND ACTIVISION[/i][/b]

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Buy the dlc. Problem solved.

Read the first sentence and immediately lost interest because you sound like a whiney child.

Fact in order for more dlc and content to be released money is needed to pay developers, coders, bungie employee's etc. If you played the game for more than 1500 hours like myself $140 for that amount of entertainment is a fkn deal. You pay $15 for movie tickets if you wanna go see a movie which will last for about 2 hours. Simple logic 1500 hours of fun + $140 = amazing.on top of all this the dlc is almost like a complete new game well worth it. Edit. Forgot to address your new players get the game for $60, yeah its an old game now and they start from scratch. The seasoned players have everything they grinded for from year 1.

Man that is nothing, is how they rendered the same armors from year one a different color

Yes!!!!! Very true! I am refusing to buy too!!!!!! Sons a bitches!

For 40$ the DLC was pretty big compared to the last ones. But everything is in beta test again since the ballance is way off. It wouldve been much better to have the old weapons stand on the same or just little less damage level than the new ones and let the players decide their playstyle with the variety of gunperks. Now they just changed the old modells a little but made year 1 gear useless. After the firstimpressions of the dreadnought the grind kicks back in. Though i love the hakka hakka guns and the new quest menu we still get to run from rahool to postmaster back and forth, we get only the crucible/vangard mix. Legendary marks are the new coins and earning them in PVP is almost impossible to me since there are only fully uprgraded hardcore junkies and my exotic Fabian dont even scratch their shiny armor, or they glitch it. Then i start a 260 light daily with my 277char but i get continious instakilled allready at the mission start without any chance. The balance seems so way off it really deters my from playing right now, then i learn people allready got the black spindle and kept farming the 310exotic to level everything else since bungie allready is on the jump to patch. There were so many wrong decisions that really spoil what couldve been the best choice in gaming right now maybe they get to fix it over time, but they allready try for over a year paying ever so little attention to what players ask for, then all off a sudden the vault gets doubled which was stated impossible before. At all feels like a giant bait and switch to check how far activision customers can be mocked until they quit. For me its not even the money but the huge weapon grind that just got a restart, and i didnt even had leveled raidgear.

Nope. It's not false advertising. Anyone with a law degree will explain that they are breaking no laws. But plenty of people who feel ripped off will argue that they are. That doesn't make it true. I think it sucks how so much is cut off from people who don't but TTK, but I also think it sucks that McDonald's won't bring back the Mexican fries shakers. Neither of which I can change. Letting old players level to 40 and complete end game stuff would of been better.

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