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2 shot head burst, sometimes 3. Max stability if rolled right. It's the messenger everyone wants but can't get due to being unable to go 9-0.
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  • It's better than the Messenger. I have a Messenger in every element and I'm grinding for the Hopscotch

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  • Edited by SepticGiraffe: 7/24/2015 8:47:42 PM
    Wut. How can you say it's better than the messenger if you are still grinding for one. I have both and the messenger is just as good if not better. Pointless to grind for hopscotch, you're just gonna have to regrind for weapon parts to get the perfect roll (which will be almost identical to the messenger roll)

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  • The Messenger does not have a perfect roll, by any stretch of the imagination. Third eye is totally pointless, and Headseeker is generally a pretty shitty perk. The damage increase doesn't make up for lost critical damage from the first bullet. It does almost as much as if all three bullets hit the head, but not quite. There are better rolls out there but I'll let you do the research yourself. I don't want to face people in the Crucible with my roll, so I'll keep it to kyself

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  • Edited by SepticGiraffe: 7/24/2015 11:26:28 PM
    Haha what you say sounds good on paper, but in practice it fails. 1) third eye is a top tier perk- it lets you hard scope sight lines while watching for a flank. One of the best perks in the game. 2) headseeker is the only perk in the game that provides a damage boost on [u]all[/u] shots, free of user action- no need for kills (crowd control), no need to kill and reload. And it adds enough damage to matter. Without it, you can't two burst a hunter with only two headshots, with it you can. Without it, you can only two burst low armor hunters and warlocks with three headshots- with it you kill everything. 3) you can sit there and argue that you should be going for triple headshots per burst, but you're going to either hit body+head or head+miss. That's why you want headseeker- messengers slight recoil lets you aim at chest and the recoil naturally walks the shots up to two headshots. Two burst kill everytime, and easy. [b][u]Either way, you are going to be shooting two bursts every time, why not go for the easier guaranteed kill??[/u][/b]Try and go for only headshots everytime with hopscotch and max stability and you'll be three bursting most of the time. Trust me, I have both guns. Also, to further prove my point that you're argument is stupid in practice- look at your stats. You clearly aren't triple headshotting per burst.

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  • And since you're the typical destiny forum angry teenager, I'm muting you. You aren't of any value to me, because you're a hostile, closed minded idiot. -blam!- yourself, bitch

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  • Lol ur kd

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  • Also, only scrubs need to hardscope. You must be absolutely lost in Inferno.. Once your crutch is removed your situational awareness must be abysmal. You are a joke.

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  • Edited by ashesofman: 7/24/2015 11:30:32 PM
    You have no idea what you're talking about. You like the messenger because it lets you play like shit. You can sit and stare down your scope and are rewarded for having garbage aim. I am not going to help you out though, so I won't substantiate my viewpoint. I like that you are so ignorant. It's hilarious. Edit: oh, and your stats are shit, pal. You're mediocre and for whatever reason don't even know it. The ignorance is strong in this one.

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  • Haha what? Hard scoping is a legit tactic- it's called holding a lane. Knowing a flank is coming while holding a lane is way more beneficial than 95% of the other perks in the game. And yeah, my stats aren't the best, but they are way, way above yours. Probably because I understand the benefits of perks in practice, not on paper. It looks like you die a lot in trials. Probably because you have bad rolls. Messenger would fix that.

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  • Edited by ashesofman: 7/24/2015 11:33:14 PM
    And if you did the math you would know that Headseeker isn't a very good perk. You're going to have to fire 3 bursts no matter what if you fail to crit every shot in the two bursts. People like you are so dumb about damage modifiers. If it doesn't reduce your TTK, then it isn't doing anything for you. Headseeker does nothing for you at all. It's a wasted perk.

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  • Oh nice.

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