STOP BUMPING THE GUYS THREAD......he just wants attention

Smh it takes no skill? The only thing that takes no skill is blink-shotgun and arcblade

It's annoying but it still takes skill to use well. And skill to overcome.

Hand cannons in general take the most skill.

I like using it in PvE...

If ever anyone needed a perma-ban from the forums, it's this pathetic little coward. Tough talk from mommy's basement, little boy.

What's BTW?

Tlw isn't even hard to counter, just play with a team and don't get into 1v1 encounters.

Yep and neither do you.

People that make posts complaining about weapons lack skill. I have every exotic weapon, all raid weapons, and i would say the majority of the really good legendaries. I have all but five or six of those weapons maxed out. I have yet to find a weapon that does not have a counter. The felwinters lie, tlw, and thorn have more range than they should, but they are still able to be countered. I personally dont think tlw is that great. I think lag is the biggest issue. People dont understand this, and they blame weapons. We need better servers.

Pathetic how many cry babies have learned how to post. This guy is sad.

Only bad players and harrassed girls hide their stats. Which one are you?

This is honestly the 3rd time I've found a post of yours on the forums. And it's again, about nerfs.

Everyone just bought one. You're facing a lot of people with them. If it wasn't TLW you would probably be crying about shotties.

[u]Assault rifle adjustment[/u] Assault rifles suffered to a somewhat reasonable degree, except for the wrong reason. Assault rifles need to maintain good damage an should not have their damage over reduced. Instead to compensate it should be their range that affects them the most. So instead of reducing damage, reduce range to that point so assault files can shine better at closer ranges. [u]Shotgun nerf[/u] Shotgun range needs to be nerfed a slight bit more. We should be looking more into the distances that it is okay to be killed from, even with perks such as shot package and toning it down from there. I'm sure the shorter range of shot guns the more the perks and play styles can shine. [u]Pulse rifle nerf[/u] Pulse rifles are pretty close to on point after the update. I would like to see a slight damage reduction in pulse rifle critical multipliers. Enough to bring weapons like the red death and three little words away from being direct 2 shots without having something to offset that. An example: choosing more impact for a 2 shot kill at a high cost to stability. But that being the only way for it to be a 2 shot kill; it shouldn't naturally kill in 2 shots. [u]The Last Word and the Thorn nerf[/u] Change the last words aiming so the first bullet that is shot while aimed quickly isn't treated as a hip shot. Change the thorn's tic damage so it becomes less when getting hit with a body shot. Or if the thorn only did damage over time to Guardians who were moving that would also work well. [u]No land beyond buff[/u] After the update it is more difficult to rely on, it has never been a stand alone weapon because of its inconsistencies. Remove the glint, adjust the sights so the visuals don't hinder it and reduce the sway. Replace mulligan with perk that has armor piercing rounds that also heavily stagger. Then decrease the range and increase the damage. Slightly increase the the bullet chambering. I would also appreciate a "Hidden Perk" that gives it slightly more zoom when your crouched. [u]The necrocasm buff[/u] Decrease it's range, increase its damage, And up the standard clip size from 42 up to 52. [u]Dragon's Breath Buff[/u] Adding proximity to this weapon would be most helpful allowing players get solid kills and close off areas more inherently. This helps better position it's 2nd perk more naturally and assertively into key spaces. Thanks for reading.

We love you too! -Sincerely the Last Word, Thorn, and any gun you guys complain about, users.

Yet you took the time to max out 3 ;)

Absolutely not. That gun takes five times as much skill as Hawkmoon and infinite amounts more than thorn.

Yeah, I guess you're right on that one.

Bump, I definitely agree