How are you force to buy silver? How come I played destiny for the 3 years silver been out and haven't once brought any? Can you explain to me how am I different?

And it still doesn't end up having enough content as some games that exceed a year of expansions with a single initial release. Witcher 3 and its dlc(for example) far exceed anything Bungie has done for D2 at half the price. I get it's a live service game, but still. Looking at Black Armory just looks like more grindy nonsense for thirty hours for a couple of items for 40 bucks. Ooh, wow, so exciting. Frankly, if content is good enough, or interesting enough, I'll play it again and again without it forcing me to for no good reason. I've played Bloodborne start to finish maybe fifteen times and I still love it; I've done this for however long and I'm pretty much done. I'm not spending 40 dollars I could put towards one of the MANY much more interesting games on the horizon with content I KNOW I'll enjoy. Hell, maybe even Anthem if the closed "alpha"(let's be honest, with two months left it's basically a demo) this weekend turns out well, and most definitely Cyberpunk. If they somehow pull off something interesting with a story dlc next year, maybe I'll come back, but that's a big maybe. If it ends up requiring this nonsense to get whatever comes late next year then Bungie can immediately shove their dlc up their collective asses. No, thanks.

Wow, you've got to be joking? I'm assuming you're in your 40s, judging by the systems you used to play. My question is, how on earth can you get into your 40s and have such a limited understanding of the world?

Because gamers are idiots and it's easy to take money from idiots.

This is how simple economics works. Bungie makes a product and sells that product, and you choose to buy that product because you want it.

If I buy a cookie from you. I don’t have the right to turn up once a week demanding to take a fresh cookie from you because “I bought your old cookies so these should be free” This is new content, you paid for old content, which you have. This new content has been made by a team of people, all on salaries in an office Bungie pay for etc etc. Content costs money to make and thus costs money to have. HOWEVER Bungie are brining you quite a lot of new content per season without you having to fork out anything. The annual pass is completely optional.

This is how "games as a service" works (not saying it's a good thing, but it's what we've got, and Bungie aren't the only ones doing it). Not so long ago gamers were buying new games every few weeks (or every weekend), constantly feeding money into the industry and purchasing games that, by today's standards, wouldn't be considered worth the money...but that's what we had. $60 for 12-20 hours of solid content, maybe some collectables, and you could 100% a game in under a week. (Pre-Achievements/Trophies, games like Metroid, Zelda, Mario, and Chrono Trigger were one-and-done unless you felt like replaying the same thing over and over, but they still cost roughly the same as today's games, even more adjusted for inflation.) Now we have games that players can spend hundreds, if not thousands, of hours in - which means players don't need to buy new games as often and instead commit to a single title or franchise long-term, which effectively removes them from the "new games" market. The industry still needs to make money, and if they're going to continually support and update an existing game they still have employees to pay, development to fund, and stockholders to keep happy (because that's how business works). As much as many gamers get attached to their favorite games and start to think of their connection to the devs and community as a "relationship," for the people making and marketing the game it's nothing more than a business transaction, and not one they alone control - sure, they want players to be happy so they continue investing in the property, but by no means are they going to do so for free or at the expense of their own economic bottom line. (If I eat at the same pizza place every day, they're not going to start giving me pizza for free just because I've spent a lot of money there - if they're going to keep making pizza, and I want to keep eating it, I'm going to have to keep paying for it.) The part of this equation a lot of people overlook is that the time:money ratio STILL heavily favors gamers - if we were buying, conservatively, 1 game a month for a year, 60x12=$720 spent on games to keep up reasonably engaged. If we spend $60+$40 for a year of Destiny, we're spending $620 LESS for roughly the same amount of time. (Even if the average Destiny player switches between 2-3 long-life "games as a service," that's still ~$300/year, or $420 less we'd be spending on a bunch of shorter individual games - for the amount of time players expect out of current games, the $60-$100 price tag is cheap.) Destiny just entered its 5th year, and my total investment (not counting Eververse) is a little over $500 - which is less than I was spending in a single year on games prior to Destiny. The short version is, "games as a service" has saved me a couple thousand dollars by letting me play a single game long-term rather than needing to find something new every few weeks - everyone's gaming habits differ, and it ultimately comes down to whether or not you'd rather spend another $40 to play Destiny for the next year or spend that money on another game and hope it gives you the same amount of time and enjoyment.

Then don’t buy it if you dont think its worth it. So far, I’ve gotten my money’s worth and then some and have enjoyed every penny’s worth.

Ive been playing since D1 so I've paid a lot. Its not TOO bad though considering I do enjoy it and get my money's worth. Plus considering how they're doing things this time around I dont have to buy anything until next summer or fall. Thats a big plus in my book.

Destiny is a hobby. If you dont like how much the hobby costs, leave

Better than drugs and waste money on strippers. Just sayin'.

I've only paid 180: Base game; 60 total Next two dlcs, CoO, Warmind: 40 total Forsaken Base: 40 Expansion pass: next three for a total of: 40 dollars 180 American Dollars in total, 160 Euro, .045 bitcoin, 260 Nzd, etc. Over 9,000 for you Russ guys (I think).

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This is a subscription game now man, has been since house of wolves