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Edited by Orpheus49: 6/2/2016 10:40:27 PM
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Snipers still register more than half the kills in trials.

Don't believe me? Go to trials tracker. Whatever happened to an actual gun battle or using a primary? When snipers don't use primaries, it's fine? But when people use only shotguns, they just sold their soul to satan? Serously, primaries need another buff Edit: credit to user [b]xZxInFlamesxZx[/b] for bringing this up to me. I don't intend to be biased, but I want to prove primaries aren't serving their role [quote]50 Percent or more of the total SPECIAL kills. Around 28% of the total kills, http://guardian.gg/en/weapon-stats?platform=2&start=2016-05-27&end=2016-05-30&mode=14&activity=0. Which is still lob sided, but not 50%.[/quote]
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  • And this is why revive sniping shouldn't be a thing. So long as it is, Sniper Rifles will always account for the majority of kills in game modes where revives are enabled.

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    • Yup they nerf shotguns because they were overused lol what a joke?

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      • Edited by The 7th fall: 6/3/2016 12:53:02 AM
        Well we have Bungie to thank for nerfing ALL types of primaries into the ground, nerfing shotguns for "over usage", nerfing fusion rifles because ONE guy in the studio was a supposed "Fusion wizard" that put the other employees to shame, and sidearms are just meh. While I do agree that primaries need a buff I doubt it'll change how ToO is played. With how Bungie keeps herding people to the next best gun or gun type when they nerf the other it makes people used to using something, and in this case snipers. I personally hate using a sniper in PvP due to just how insulting a long range gun has turned PvP into another generic CoD style quick-scope shooter.

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      • They should make Trials with different modifiers each week, Primary only rounds, special only rounds, something to help this, Snipers .....for the damage they do and the AA they have are much to easy to use, they should reward skill and patience, instead they reward being somewhat near the target when the trigger is pulled. Shotguns.......as long as your not camping do take a little more skill then snipers, a sniper can take you out if your 20 feet away but you cant take a sniper out from 20 feet, it takes a little bit more to get close enough to kill with a SG. Make snipers so they cant scope in at anything closer then 100 feet and well call it good

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        • Edited by Bizzerker_Bauer: 6/2/2016 9:29:30 PM
          Primaries absolutely don't need a buff. Do you know why snipers ruin gameplay? Because of their fast kills times. A shift towards faster kill times on primary weapons will only make things worse. What actually needs to happen is that snipers need to be nerfed to be brought into line with the way the rest of the game players, and the way that snipers in games are meant to work in games.

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          • Take aim assist completely off and add sway, you know..like most snipers...problem solved

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            • Well that's because they r broken...

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            • Edited by Killlerschaf: 6/6/2016 3:23:07 PM
              Is that overall since Trials started to be a thing? You have to restrict it to after the December patch. The one that annihilated PRs and shotguns. Around 40-50% depending on the map, are sniper kills. Another 20-30%, depending on map, are AR kills. After the Mida, PR and Shotgun Nerfs (basically the day itself), you instantly see a huge drop off in usage of these gun types.

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            • Blink shotgunners are my nightmare

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              • Edited by Raider TCK: 6/3/2016 2:20:06 PM
                It's why I don't play trials anymore. And haven't in 6+ months at this point. That's just not fun, playing so passively. Trials punishes aggressive players far more than those who sit in the back of the map.

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                • Edited by PopsAutismo: 6/3/2016 5:12:33 AM
                  Christ. 28% of all Trials kills out of [i]eleven[/i] weapon archetypes.

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                • if players cant 1 shot you then they run and hide

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                  • I snipe because everyone else does. If you can't beat them, join them. Personally I am a Titan and enjoy a good firefight.

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                    • People will still snipe because they don't want to risk dying in a gun fight. I wish Crimson doubles was back. It was like the less serious version of trials. You could use whatever weapon you wanted. We need like a good 4v4 event that's not super try hardy

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                      • I agree buffing primaries should be done because it is your PRIMARY weapon and you shouldn't have to sit back and rely on a sniper or run around being shotgun warrior to win matches. That being said if you buffed all the primaries in their current state, your ears will be bleeding from the sound of doctrines, TLW and Midas (let's not forget the latest addition Universal Remote aka unlimited ammo felwinters lie year 2). They have to first buff all the rest of the primaries to the level of the above three mentioned. Then you will gain something way more important in this game: VARIETY. Then they should do a global buff. I honestly like what they did with snipers and the intro of LDR and longbow, more variety thank you Bungie.

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                      • Different targets under different rules favour different weapons: story at eleven.

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                      • I started using snipers recently and it is rather easy to waste someone using two shots while they try hopelessly to DPS you.

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                      • This is because snipers, special ammo, shotguns, etc are not the problem. The problem is that the time to kill is too high.

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                        • Edited by Powermix24: 6/2/2016 10:27:02 PM
                          Even when Final round was a thing , we still had thorn , last word , Felwinter's to counter that shit somehow , now we have nothing . GG It was balanced , 2 op guns Primary , 2 OP secondary , couple OP heavies .

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                          • Mega bump

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                          • The only game where sniping was worse was black ops 2. They too catered to a small portion of the community. I tbag every sniper I kill, because its funny.;-)

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                          • Primary range and accuracy has been nerfed over and over since the game came out. That's the problem.

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                          • There needs to be new armor perks. One that reduces headshot damage on a helmet. A chest peice that reduces shotgun damage. This would then cut down on them both being overused and act as a counter. As it stands, there is no true way to defend against either.

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                          • I'd agree, primaries do need a buff. Trials has always been more sniping then shot gunning. Even in year one. But certain maps call for certain play styles. Last weeks stupid map, you could snipe across the entire map from all kinds of angles. People that knew how to run the map, ran shotguns. The kill balance would be different if bungie would just turn on rotating maps each week. Why they don't is beyond me. This way, it would make people change their loadouts more often cause of the map.

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                            • 50 Percent or more of the total SPECIAL kills. Around 28% of the total kills, http://guardian.gg/en/weapon-stats?platform=2&start=2016-05-27&end=2016-05-30&mode=14&activity=0. Which is still lob sided, but not 50%.

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                              • Edited by sheek360: 6/2/2016 10:54:36 PM
                                Ok I'll say it. Straight up, who cares? It's just a game. Counter the sniper. Allow them to make u a better player; if it really matters that much. I have a crappy KD but little by little I'm losing to less and less snipers. I allowed them to force me to know their lines and master the map. Now I'm worried about fusion rifles, countering them is way harder than countering a freaking invisible shot gunner :/ EDIT I also know they aren't crap without their special ammo. Learn where that spawns and its schedule. Camp that thing if your feeling cheap

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