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Edited by SS1MGS:
10/19/2015 9:32:08 AM
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Its official Loot from ANYWHERE other than the Raid is pointless
With yesterdays announcement that the Hard Mode will have 310-320 Gear the reality that this game has become one of 2 groups
The PVP'ers and none raiders who get 280-290 ish loot who will be lucky to EVER get to 300 (Because exotics only have a "chance" of dropping at 310 once you reach 300
& Raiders who will soon be reaching 310+ and leaving everyone else in the dust.
as that graph shows the difference of 20 would equate to a delta of 2 AT LEAST!
To be frank the loot levels in anything other than the raid are a joke. Iron Banner which I was looking forward to quickly turned out to be "Oh their 280, oh well at least I won't need to waste my time doing this then...".
We all know that the Nightfall loot is BAD, but my query to this based on what I've seen implies it may have to do with Completing the ENTIRE Taken War story for the Tower, Reef and retrieving the 310 Artefact from Eris after the Raid. (Only THEN do I stop finding 190-205 Green Engram's)
#EDIT#
To say the response to this post has been mental, we've had the knee jerk reactors, the sensible and those with reflections to the vanilla destiny so thank you to the later groups who responded in an intelligent manner ^~^
I'm aware power is only important in Iron Banner and Trails but when these occur I don't want people to be at a disadvantage permanently, even if it requires effort it SHOULD be rewarded with something fitting not just a 1% chance of items dropping at 280-300 which you can acquire anywhere...
As a result of the MANY suggestions I put forward a few ideas
# Introduce a quest-line for PVP players to acquire a 310+ ghost and Artefact (To my knowledge these are both locked behind the Raid and both only drop up to 300 in the wild) I think IB, Trails styled items would be sought after
# Sell or at least allow to drop 310+ gear in Iron Banner and Trails (The later I'm aware rewards guaranteed at lighthouse)
The last one is probably the most obvious but it would also guarantee a fare playing field..
# ALL Guardians over 300 deal the same damage to each other, regardless of their level, you would still need to be 290+ to be decent but the Hard mode Raiders won't have any advantage
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1 ReplyThen raid dumbass, legit takes an hour
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Have you tried vault of crota on nightfall difficulty. It was challenging enough defeating xylar in year one. But with oryx being added in now this will be harder than ever.
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4 RepliesEdited by V: 10/25/2015 9:48:04 PMWho plays pve but doesn't raid ? It's one of the main elements in the game
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3 RepliesI don't understand how after all this time the loot system is still utter garbage in this game. It's like Bungievision are doing everything in their power to not make a fair loot system. I know their goal is to keep playing more, but TTK's grind and loot system is so bad I play less, which probably isn't a bad thing to be honest as I have a backlog of great games that require attention.
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You can get a 300+ ghost from the raid....best part???? You don't have to kill a boss to get it. First part, dunking relics, second part jumping puzzle, third part killing adds while Warpriest deems you worthy, get the chest, has a chance for 300+ ghost shell and the fusion rifle that you can infuse into your fave legendary as well. Minimal raid time spent for rewards to help you, and no major boss fight struggle.
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You've got it the wrong way around. Most raid weapons are shit and are just used for infusion
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23 RepliesEdited by Fort Wenty Oz: 10/24/2015 11:43:38 PMIf you look at my profile I have not done any raids whatsoever, no vog, no Crota end, No kings fall. Zilch, zip, nada, nuttin, not even a single section. My Titan is currently at level 303 purely from strikes, quests, patrol and story missions. I rarely play crucible and the rewards from it are so pathetic as to make it irrelevant to my current level. I started off with the 300 artifact from Eris, a 300 hand cannon from a strike drop that I infused into my 298 Imago loop to take that to 300 and the 300 shotty from Zavala. These combined with a few 297 to 299 Armour pieces and a 297 ghost shell gave me a grand total of 297. I then did the exotic sword quest which pushed me up to just a notch below 300 (I was literally stuck at 299.9 for days), I then got lucky and a 298 helmet dropped I infused it into my favourite 296 legendary helmet and bingo! Level 300! I have been playing at that level for about a week without getting any drops over 298 and was beginning to think that maybe I actually needed to do the raid to trigger the higher level drops. Then last night I bought an exotic chest engram from xur, it decrypted into a 310 Alchemists raiment. As I was using my titan I couldn't use it so put it in storage and went to do strikes, first strike I got 2 exotics drip from the boss, the chest piece decrypted as a 310 alpha lupi, the other as a 290 hawkmoon. Two strikes later a had exotics gauntlets drop, 310 no backup plans! Then a few strikes after that an exotic primary dropped, 310 hawk moon! ! So I suddenly have a hand full of exotics @ 310 and can only use 2 of them... so time for some infusing, I infused the Alchemists raiment into a 298 legendary chest piece taking it to 308 and put on the 310 NBP. I then infused the 310 hawk into my 300 Imago loop taking it to 308 as well. So with the sword as my heavy weapon I am now over 303 light. If I can find a stronger ghost, a 310 exotic special to infuse into my shotty, some decent greaves and helmet I will be well on my way to 305+.
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2 RepliesI have a solution to all your problems. Halo 5, tomb raider, and then the best fallout 4. Leave destiny its been a good run but there's too many better games coming out.
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just got a 307 chest for my lock from the nightfall. bam! 303 now.
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4 RepliesThere is a quest line for PVPers. It's just so absurdly, incomprehensibly, outrageously long no one bothers to complete it. After that, there's a weekly bounty that drops Nightfall-esque rewards. Outside of that PVPers have rng to depend upon.
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then do the raid
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5 RepliesGot a question. Should I even run normal orxy or just got stright to hard now?????
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And that's why Infusion exists in the Taken King.
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#320lighthouseloot
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I can't wait to make my iron banner pulse 320.
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Getting higher levels won't be a problem for me but for the pvp, only player's having the requirement that you need to get to the lighthouse to get it seems wrong. Especially with the new matchmaking coming into play. It's like giving strong players an advantage.
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New nightfall loot has potential to be useful-ish. Also the sheer beauty of my arc flayer mantle might disagree.
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7 RepliesI remember when Trials had elemental primary weapons (pointless in PVP) while PoE (giggles) had no elemental primary weapons. [spoiler]They had it backwards, sillyheads.[/spoiler]
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1 ReplySo your theory is that they won't offer high end gear for trials now? Even though they have always had high end gear for trials available to people who win enough matches. A clear reason they would adamantly refuse to let it return while the shadowshot issue existed. To protect that top gear for those that earn the right. I'm no pvp expert but was happy this path to top level gear was available to those competitors. Even the douchey ones who post dribbling mouth farts all over the forums. Ugh. Why do people insist on putting all their stupid on the Internet for the world to see...
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1 ReplyU CLEARLY never played any "mmo" like games. Raid gear is ALWAYS better. ALWAYS the BEST. So yeah. U want top tier shit? Do raid.
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It is true that to get to the highest level you need to do the raid but at least with the infusion system we have more freedom to choose our build/look rather than everyone wearing the trashy raid gear
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Edited by MDGUN: 10/25/2015 6:30:35 PMAgree. If you only want loot 311+. Play for fun. Think of it as a time saver. Only play hard mode now.
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Exotics, nightfall, trials, iron banner and raid gear should all be max level. Raid rng sucks. Like sucks worse than year 1. They managed to create something worse than year 1 with infusion and crap drops. Year 2 just has better story. Guns gear and end game are worse. Raid is just do x and y to stand inna circle and shoot a bullet sponge. Werent they doing away with bullet sponges?!?!?!? New loot algorithm to help with duplicates....... I get more duplicates more than ever. I walked away for 7 months. Come Tuesday its for good.
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Edited by Hamurai: 10/26/2015 12:09:25 AMDouble-post...damn this app.
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No. First off, if all guardians over 300 did the same damage, what the hell is the point of level advantages? They're there to give a greater challenge. And no Crucible event should offer any reward over 300 (except Trials Lighthouse rewards) because reputation and rewards can be gained from simply sitting in a match and doing nothing. Strikes don't exactly drop great shit either. The raid is the Magnum Opus of TTK, as well it should be. It's only natural that it should offer the best rewards...even if they, themselves are poorly thought-ought and worthless beyond aesthetics.
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Nightfall loot is now breaking the 300 barrier... But the high end loot is & should be reserved for Raiders & ToO players (I don't do Trials, I do Do The Raid) It's called End Game... Filthy casuals don't need to be 300+ light
