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Books Of Sorrow. The Hive weren't always evil, they were deceived/influenced by the Worms (So far, they could pretty well be the Ahamkara)

-THIS NEEDS TO BE BUMPED, STICKED AND TRENDING!!- So, i just read the Books of Sorrow, three Krill (original race, pre-Hive) one named Aurash, another named Xi Ro and a third called Sathona, all are female as written in these grimoire cards, children of the Osmium Throne Their homeworld is The Fundament, they've set to delve into the Deep (core of the planet) to find some sort of secret power that would help them get revenge and regain their rightful place, after Taox (said Teacher to them at the time) plotted to have the Helium Court kill the kings heirs (which failed BUT the King being assassinated), thus after having found the Needle, a ship, found in the Shvubi Maelstrom, along past layers of the core they would come across an entity called the Leviathan that would guard it (The Deep), in this core are trapped the Worms Xol, Eir, Ur and Akka Aurash, Sathona and Xi Ro all ingest a worm. Each gaining a new name for their adulthood, Aurash becoming Auryx and undergoes a transformation called King Morph. Together they would slowly become more powerful, killing other species to feed the hunger of the worms (given to them by the Ahamkara) thus making them stronger in exchange but making the Worms grow more hungry. -Auryx, later then known as no one else but Oryx, The Taken King (in other words btw, Oryx is a female lol...) [b]Edit:[/b] [i]HOLY SHIT !! http://www.halopedia.org/Ecumene http://db.destinytracker.com/grimoire/enemies/books-of-sorrow/xxix-carved-in-ruin LOOK AT THAT LITTLE HALO/DESTINY UNIVERSE CROSSOVER (could be IF these Ecumene in the Destiny lore is the same beings as in Halo, because in Halo the Ecumene are basically the Forerunners)[/i] [b]Edit #2:[/b] [i]getting pretty tired of people saying "hurr Oryx isn't a girl", well ffs yes IT was a SHE back when IT was two years old at the beginning of this story depicted in these grimoire cards. I'm also tired of all these " derp da Ahamkara are dragonnzzz hurrrr" so far we've not seen what they look like other than bones, but these worms sure asf speak like Ahamkara, have god like powers like Ahamkara, can even speak/influence even AFTER death like Ahamkara and also are deceitful beings.. Promising power in return for some sated appetites. So far, what's written here quite weights in the direction that: yes they could pretty much be these beings we call Ahamkara[/i]
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  • Why would the worms be ahamkara

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    • I also thought worms=Ahamkara, but now I'm under the impression "Ahamkara" is specifically talking about the Dragons/worms that are independent from the 'Worm our God' that Oryx and family worship. The Ahamkara are worms that turned away from the Deep/Darkness to serve their own ends, not the worms as a whole (which are just called...worms). It also [i]seems[/i] that the worms aren't necessarily the Darkness itself. From what I gathered, the Darkness is 'the Deep' and is more a natural force than a thinking entity; the worms can channel the Deep's power and claim to speak for it. [spoiler]And props to Bungie for having the world's first transgender Alien-Space-God.[/spoiler]

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      • Oryx changed gender, he has been described as a "he" past his transformation...

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        • Just read a calcified fragment card, The Krill aren't from Fundament. MORE BACKSTORY NEEDED!

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          • Well, you wanted -blam!-ers wanted more story. So Bungie wrote the whole damn bible into the game.

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            • PLOT TWIST: Guardians ie hunters and warlocks have been deceived by the worms into attacking the hive and starting the war, with your ahamkara equipment. Titans roped in because they placed their trust in warlocks with their knowledge and hunters with their true sight. Kings fall has you fight against the truth and the lies, the titans side with the hive against their former team mates, if titans win, they become the new taken commanders, if titans lose. hunters and warlocks battle the new taken allies and hands of Oryx. end of raid: Oryx hands you legendary hive gear if titans and if hunters and warlocks. the ahamkara present you their version of armour. Second Coming: Praedyths team and Vex help the titans defend Oryx who has been wronged by the corrupted guardians. NB: this isn't canon so don't go over the top with anything

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              • Forum guardian logic: Traveler has to be evil. Nothing could be holy or full of light The most obvious evil spawns of darkness are not really that bad once you get to know them It is beyond ironic that Guardians are willing to push the narrative that evil is good, good is evil. I find it interesting and revealing of one's own soul perspective. Darkness can only see and feel darkness. Darkness also knows how to plead its own case to pull others into its darkness

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                • Oryx is Caitlyn Jenner

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                  • Pronouns used on Oryx seem quite clear that he is male. Moral of the story, evil space worms will give you a sex change.

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                    • Edited by Zebra D. Luffy: 9/16/2015 3:36:11 PM
                      Crazy, I can't help but wonder if we'll "clense" the hive & other species we are fighting now so they can/will become allies.

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                      • Finally read it all. I feel kinda sorry for the original 3 sisters.[spoiler]and i wanna worm![/spoiler] [spoiler]jk. Those things are messed.[/spoiler]

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                      • WORLDS FIRST ARC EDGE SWORD GAMEPLAY AND HOW TO

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                        • Edited by Tac Town Chris: 9/15/2015 4:25:44 PM
                          Oryx kills one of the worms to become number one bad ass hive god so he can wield the power of the deep aka darkness thus becoming the taken king....I love reading lore. XXVIII: King of Shapes 5 View Card Verse 3:8 — King of Shapes This is the Coronation of Oryx, the Taken King. It happened thus. In the cold abyss of the sword world, King Aurash walked under a cloak of green fire. He walked through the sky and the sky shuddered and froze beneath his feet. He walked until he found Akka, the Worm of Secrets, who was denying a truth until it became a lie. “Akka my God, Worm of Secrets. I am Auryx, sole king of the Hive. I have come to receive a secret. I want the secret power of the Deep, which you hold.” “I give no secrets,” said Akka, whose voice was code. “No,” said Auryx, “you give nothing. Giving is for the Sky. You worship the Deep, which asks that we take what we need.” Akka said nothing, because if it denied this truth, the truth might become false. “But you gave us your larvae, the worm,” said Auryx, “and that is why the worm devours us now: because it was given, not taken. So I must take what I need from you, although you are my god.” Said Akka, “You have not the strength.” But this was a lie. Auryx had killed Savathûn his sibling and Xivu Arath his sibling, and he had the sword logic of killing them. Auryx the First Navigator set upon his god with his sword and his words, and cut Akka to pieces, and took from those pieces the secret of calling upon the Deep. He wrote this secret on a set of tablets, which he called the Tablets of Ruin. And he wore them about his waist. Then Auryx said, “Now I may speak to the Deep, the beautiful final shape. I will be King of Shapes. I will learn all the secrets of our destiny.” His speech to the Deep is not recorded here. But it is known that he returned, and he said, now I am Oryx, the Taken King. And I have the power to take life and make it my own. Then he went out into the universe, and fought the Ecumene with his Tablets. And the Worm his God was pleased.

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                        • I want dat Oryx booty now... [i]~About Me[/i]

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                        • Ohhh maaaaaah gawd

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                        • I'm starting to think Eris is from the Fundament too. Maybe she is Taox (or someone related) still trying to take down Aurash/Oryx and her sisters

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                          • Taox = The Speaker

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                          • Orxy's balls dropped then, poor girl

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                          • Sathona or whatever her name is. Isn't that the wizard you can kill even you run are running from Oryx Army after getting a shard of crotas Crystal?

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                            • Those who say this game has no story is so very wrong. Implementation leaves,something to be desired but man the lore and destroy is there if you work for it. Key word is work and some people seem to take issue with that, and I can understand that. Personally I'm ok woth Ior as I a giant fan of souls/bloodborne games and those tell their story/lore the same way and we love them for it. Why's this game treated so differently then lol? Now, back to the topic, this was an incredible read and I can't wait to find mote!

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                              • Edited by steadyhand08: 9/16/2015 11:48:22 AM
                                I just want to say know that I totally called it when I said the hive we like a worm (at the time I think I said parasite but I was close enough) Their was an old patrol mission where you gathered up these worms for study it's awsome to see the connection explained Edit: deep and sky = light and dark You ever start to feel like a proxy in a larger battle. also the sword logic is starting to make sense. It's darkness magic I am the most powerful this is the true. Until we proved it to be a lie and thus oryx is no more. We are going to have to get a sword ready it's going to be the only way to kill his taken form...

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