I can understand fixing the EXPLOITS for fighting the templar, but what they are doing about atheon's choice in who he teleports absolutely ruins the raid. its a strategy to have 3 members in charge of getting the relic and having the other 3 killing harpies and holding the sync plate not an EXPLOIT!! bungie said we need to be a solid group to do the vault.... And strategy is part of what makes a solid fireteam. if anyone agrees please leave a comment whether you do agree or not, and if not I only ask the real forum posters to give their reasoning.
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Edited by The 7th fall: 10/20/2014 9:20:05 PMSigned, I know I can switch roles 6 ways from Sunday, but I know that some of my buddies, their buddies and lots of random people aren't as flexible if they get teleported at random. EDIT: Also to those saying "your overreacting" or the typical "Don't whine, get good at being randomly teleported", you obviously don't care for those that can't switch roles at the drop of a hat. Not everyone can get used to switching roles so suddenly because Bungie can't think up of a clever way to keep people from pushing Atheon off the ledge. "bumpers" to keep him up are just fine, why *BLEEP* around with teleporting random players?
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Signed
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Signed
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Signed, but they will do it anyway to fulfill the urge to keep their corporate overseers happy to try and prolong the games interaction with the public. If Bungie goes through with this it will be the last game i ever purchase with Bungie logo on it. Just leave the raid alone do not be like Microsoft and shoot your company in the foot to stay relevant.
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Signed. There is a difference between "challenging" and "obnoxious". The cheesing exploit needs to be patched ASAP. I don't think anyone seriously disagrees. But letting RNGsus dictate raid strategy is just annoying.
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Agreed. leave that aspect as is.
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Agreed
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Signed. Did it today, even with the same three inside and outside it took a bit of time.
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Completely agree, its already hard enough, make this something that happens if you up the difficulty, but it should not be in the normal version of the raid. Whats the point of teamwork and strategy if you have no idea who is going to be teleported, you pick the best man for the job, you don't pick at random.
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Signed as it will probably deter people from raiding. Honestly who at Bungle thinks shit like this will go down well.
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Co-signed
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6 RepliesBungie please don't add random teleport to Aetheon. It is hard enough with 6 people who worked together to beat him this weekend. Three of us knew the time streams really well and three of us knew how to hold the gates. And it still took us ~3 hours. Don't do this.
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1 ReplySigned although Bungie isn't really caring about what we think. They care about the Call of Duty crowd more than anything that bitch whine and moan all the time about PvP.
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SUPER BUMP.
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I agree. BUNGIE DON'T CHANGE THAT!!! Strategy is a very important part of the raid and any other strike, mission, and anything else. If that gets removed it because completely random. Randomness isn't what makes raids interesting and or fun. Being able to get 6 people strategizing and working as a team is what makes a Raid just that. If we can't form strategies and make decisions then whats the point.
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True dat! Bump
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I'm sure we're all aware that it's Bungies way of making sure that collecting all of their content of which this is so little will be even more difficult in an attempt to make their game live longer. I agree that by forcing everyone to be a Destiny version of a renaissance man, players will any and all sense of individuality and role within a fireteam.
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You got my signature. Hope Bungie really listens to this.
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Signed.
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100% agree. The vault should be a fun and challenging experience. I think this update has the potential to make defeating Atheon a frustrating and near impossible experience for many groups.
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I agree 100% as well your taking the strategy out of that part of the raid and making it ramdom witch is not strategy you guys are completely contradicting yourselfs. Please dont change this. You are making is impossible for the none everyday gamers to complete the raid. And now theres going to be a slim chance that a group who has members that haven't played together before will be able to beat atheon. PLEASE THERE SHOULD BE MORE PEOPLE SIGNING THIS AND COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW CHANGE
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Agreed
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RANDOM=NO STRATEGY STOP THE RANDOMNESS! IF ANYTHING NERF THE RNG!!
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Giusto, non toglieteci la possibilità di avere ruoli nel team
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Yes yes yes it added a new level of strategy.They said to challenge it to find ways to beat it.Then its just taking that away.You're doing it but wrong.