Bungie made this problem themselves. They essentially killed Duskfield and Cold snap to the point they're not worth using at all, unless you're a Hunter with the aspect that boosts their effects. Coldsnap has garbage tracking, is very slow and freezes you for what, half a second. Duskfield basically does nothing now except maybe give you a minor annoying if at all. Glacier grenade has massive potential all around. Block entire hallways, freeze people on contact, gives you damage reduction just for existing if you use the aspect, has extremely busted detonation damage, so much so that it's the ONLY stasis ability that can insta kill a Warlock in Well of Radiance. Hunter is the best class to use it with given the shatter dive. It's a move you can bust out of nowhere with no setup at all. You can instant kill supers or even wipe a team with a single press of a button. Heck, you don't even need to be up in the air to break the crystals. Titans have to run before they can shatter effectively and Warlocks can't shatter at all. Not only do you get damage reduction just for throwing it out, making it harder for people to kill you, but breaking the crystals also gives you a massive boost to grenade energy making you able to spam this crap endlessly. Then you add on to the fact Bungie gave hunters a fragment that undid all the nerfs they gave to the glacier and shatter combo by making the ice wall more compact and have a more focused damage cone and you get what we have now. And this is even AFTER Bungie nerfed this Combo and stasis in general at least 4-5 times overall. It's funny how Bungie can nerf Shadebinder 1 time and completely kill it, spending several months bringing it back, nerf Behemoth and downright make it unplayable in pvp (heck or PvE) unless you play a certain way, yet after all that, you can pick Revenant and do just about everything you could now when it launched expect freeze people with shurikens. 🤷

Has anyone seen goldenhunter yet? They are usually in these post justifying any broken hunter ability while also stating shoulder charge and handheld supernova are the best abilities in the game. Just waiting for that post 😂

This game’s pvp will never be balanced, and will always have an element of contest-of-build-strength. Bungie is stringing all of you along by holding out the hope of anything different.

Or just play trials with a hunter

How did stasis kill ur bubbles?

You don’t see titans slide shattering because Behemoth is utterly worthless now!

"Just shoot it, Fox" -Peppy Hare [spoiler]Also, have you tried doing a barrel roll?[/spoiler]

Just get rid of -blam!- stasis. It has RUINED the game of Destiny

Stasis is the worse thing to ever happen to crucible since Destiny began. remove stasis

Yes, please get rid of the one thing the Behemoth subclass was supposed to be focused around.

Shatterdive abuse ruins any sort of gunplay in small maps. I just played control with 4 shitterdive hunters on the opposing team on cauldron. Bungie, stasis is traaaaaash.

Stasis hunters in general are becoming an annoyance

Ah yes I remember when Hunters cried shoulder charge was OP because it one shot 1 person. It became a melee ability with a cool down but the moment anyone points out shatterdive Hunters say just git good

Glacial wall grenades should work like Titan Incendiary grenades. The grenades should be thrown, have a delay, and then trigger and create the crystals. this would prevent the panic-Shatterdive that is so common and would promote more tactical thinking, as well as opening up counterplay for the glacial wall grenade. one of the big problems is that the glacial wall grenade has no counterplay compared to other grenades, you get frozen and you die. The only other grenade that is a 100% kill is Tripmine when used correctly, no other grenade can 1 shot a guardian without exotics, even stickies dont.

About time someone actually brings some valid points to the table. I usually troll with the "me angy bungie fix, me am good you bad" posts. Guys we did it... We found the diamond in the rough. Yeah shatterdive needs at least a snerf to its radius or maybe nerf the fragment that gives grenade energy because the only thing stopping hunters right now from spamming shatterdive more than they do now is the 5 second cool down because it takes ~2 seconds to get your grenade back assuming you have T8 Discipline and shatter all the glaciers. At T10 it might as well be instantaneous, and I know they nerfed the radius from 9 meters to ~6 meters but that's never stopped anyone. I feel the "fine tune" to shatterdive was a lazy fix so bungie could get the majority of us to shut up. Normally im not one to call something a "no skill gun" or "no skill ability" but when theres little you can do against shatterdive except maybe back up and hope they dont freeze you still or youre too close shatterdive is next to unescapable. Lets not forget how easy it is to actually take down supers too. Warlocks have to use their melee to freeze and then go smack them two more times to kill unless its a low damage reduction super like goldy. Titans have to slide into their DM's, now yes they all require 2 abilities but the difference is how frequently can each class do it. Warlocks would need high strength to get melee energy quickly or an exotic that gives 2 charges or extra melee energy. Titans only have to wait on their grenade and their slide is recharged by then and even then its only useful every once and a blue moon, hunters can just yeet and slam every 5 seconds and the only prerequisite to being able to shatterdive is being in the air. They could literally be 3 feet off the ground and be able to shatterdive where as titans have to run for a few seconds before they get the slide. Hunters get too much love with this combo and it can be and very much so is frustrating.