The profit

Mfs don’t want both?

It could survive the removal of one of its Icarus Dashes and keep it at a three second cooldown. But if we’re talking fair trade offs? The Void subclasses need more than this paltry sacrifice to restore Voidwalker to its D1 glory.

Double Air Dash and Celestial Fire definitely need a little regulation.

Buff voidwalker without having to nerf anything else

Why not just buff void class on warlock and just leave dawnblade alone? Shouldn’t we be wanting warlocks to pick void subclass out of desirable aspect rather then dawnblade got nerfed so now I ‘have’ to use this other class to compete. 🤷‍♂️ [spoiler]that goes for all subclasses on all caracters 😉 [/spoiler]

Not before they nerf the crap out of Revenant. I get solo Revenant often now in matches. When I say nerf it, I mean remove any sense of freezing PERIOD from all Stasis subclasses especially the Warlock and Hunter. The Titan is slow now so it is much easier to kill than a roaming Warlock in Stasis and an annoying unskilled solo supering Revenant Hunter.

I offer up a Celestial Fire nerf. I would prefer for Icarus Dash to no longer carry momentum(like before Shadowkeep) but that would affect the speed-running community, and they already had sword-skating removed. Celestial Fire just offers way too much. 105 total damage, infinite range, tracking, and AoE. Removing only one of these would be a good start and then we can see if more is needed, similar to how 120s were dealt with.

Wouldn’t it be easier to buff void without messing with dawn blade?

[quote]In order to get a small buff to the warlock void trees?[/quote] How about no. It completely stupid to nerf a class that is only at the top because it is the only option just tonuse a class that isn't bad as is just has fallen off in comparison to others. Not everything is meant to be meta worthy and to rob tom to fix paul is just plain stupid. I hope this wasn't some weak alibi to not get downvoted by titans and hunters because they are the reason we get nerfed in the first place. If you want a buff just ask for one leave the dumb quid pro quo out. You're a warlock have some frickin dignity thats why everyone thinks we're weak quit getting bullied or putting up punk stuff like this ffs.

I would like to see the void trees get updated, as far as TTDB is concerned, I would say leave it alone for the most part, If anything reign in the range a bit so it ain't cross map all the time, tbh it should only have that sort of range while heat rises is active and you are in the air. That way ttdb still has access to the ranged melee but you have to be in the air, in exchange Icarus dash gets a bit more length while the buff is active, due to these benefits heat rises timer would be reduced by a fourth of its uptime. Void walker needs some serious help across the board, starting with the obvious problems, first there's blink, the fact that you can get shot out of it, MID TELEPORT, is a unfair, especially considering all the other penalties on top of it, it leaves you in a situation where you cannot take advantage of all the close range abilities this class has to offer, Next are the grenades, Literally the only good grenade on this class is the vortex nade, ive rarely ever seen anyone use anything aside from that when using that subclass, scatter grenades are useless for the most part and the axiom grenade only slightly better, not only that, the abilities are a bit lack luster and are in need of upgrades and or updates. Devour is good, however it needs something to give it some extra power, health regen is good but you should also get damage resistance to make it more tanky (there's an idea for an exotic), The Nova bomb for devour needs a bigger blast radius but needs to be smaller in the throw animation, or just not detonate on corners or walls that are right next to you. like i could be six inches away from the wall and the nova bomb could clip the damn wall and blow myself up. Top tree could also be made a bit better by slowly increasing in size as it travels, farther it travels the more damage it does, similar to death bringer only without the height requirements and better tracking so it doesn't -blam!- off to outer space if you aim is off. Nova warp can be useful in certain situation but it takes very specific builds to even make it work at times and again you need to get within shotgun range in order to make any of that shit work. I would like to see both top and bottom tree arc get buffs, little things like the arc souls from bottom tree only getting a damage buff (not getaway artists), In fact, Storm trance needs a serious buff in all honesty, even in base pve it has trouble keeping up with better add control options, Like stasis with bleak watchers. It can do fine in pvp because it has some of the better grenade offerings and great exotic choices, but compared to chaos reach there is no reason to play either top or bottom tree. I would gladly see ttdb and CR get nerfed if the other sub classes got some updates to be viable across the freaking board. Heck the most fun i have in pvp is when i play well with boots of the assembler and lumina, Let the slayers slay I'll just keep them alive and buffed. You can buff lumina and thorn while your at it so they are on equal footing with other hand cannons like ace or last word.

Maybe

Would love to at least pick and choose what perks to use from any void tree

How about we leave top tree Dawnblade alone and just buff the other subclass trees? If dawnblade does get nerfed, I hope they surprise us and make the changes pvp only. I enjoy using the mobility to explore/ play in pve

frankly the changes needed are for the tree to actually be looked at period. it feels like two out of three options have been left the same since launch and nova warp is a joke right now.