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Edited by A1Strider:
3/29/2021 8:15:35 AM
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Stasis is still broken.....
My main reason for writing this is mainly that i am still getting frozen with the same consistency i was before. I have honestly not felt like any nerfs were even made to the things that were accually the problem with stasis as a whole.
Still can be frozen while in super.
Still can get shattered through walls by both shatter dive and the warlock super.
Still getting pulled from absurd ranged by duskfell grenades.
Still running into EXCLUSIVELY stasis hunters in PvP.
And finally.... I am still getting frozen my a warlocks rift.... Through... Walls....
Like honestly im not saying make it useless but atleast make it make sense.
There is no reason a super should be frozen at all.
Im a stasis titan covered in a ice armor.... Lets just get frozen by the same ice and unable to move. Or thundercrash, or spectral blades, or even freaking panick barrage.
Stasis should require LOS for direct freeze and shatter abilities, its freeze effectiveness should directly alter based on the targets resistance.
Supers(All of them) should not be able to be frozen (Mabye accept by a stasis SUPER specifically).
And lastly, there should not be a massive decrease in accuracy when chilled with even 10 stacks. Like i can understand mabye after 50 stacks you start getting a scaling accuracy change but not below that. Your already slowed and cant jump or use abilities and Grenades and AOE still hit through barricades, So blocking isnt an option.
Again, i understand that nerfs just happened and that there were some pretty big changes, but when i dont see anything but dawnblade, chaos reach, or stasis in crucible it gets ridiculous.
I would like constructive feedback on my opinions and mabye a good intelligent conversation on what i have suggested and why you may or may not think its a bad idea
- thank you for reading my Rant/suggestions.
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Whenever I play crucible usually all I see stasis paired with is hand cannons and shotguns, usually stasis nade thrown then in comes the sliding shotgub hunter or titan.
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1 ReplyThis game is so far from balance I don’t know why anyone complains about crucible.
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Tbh I think it's in a good spot rn, the Light subclasses just need to be brought up to Stasis' level.
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6 RepliesAgreed, it's still the cancer of the crucible and Silence and Squall is the dumbest most spammed super I have ever seen. Why bother trying to break out of it when it guaranteed to kill you anyway. Cheese central.
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5 RepliesAgreed but if shadebinder couldn’t freeze it’d be worse than nova warp
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There isn't anything they can do to keep stasis balanced. The freezing and constant slowing is simply tok much. If it's in the game, it's OP, simple as that.
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Yeah, it is.
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Doesn't feel all that bad to be completely honest. Light based subclasses still rock and so does Stasis.
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2 RepliesSounds like another classic case of mad cos bad 😎
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4 RepliesBeen gone a while from the game but why shouldn't an ice super be able to freeze another guardians who is using their super?
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Stasis is fine.
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1 Replyi play PvP about 2 to 6 hours a day depending on the day. seven days a week. ive NEVER been killed or frozen through a wall. What are you doing? Hanging pictures for christ sake?
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1 ReplyIf you are getting frozen the same now as before the nerfs you must be HORRIFICALLY bad at PvP! For us intermediate players its WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better! How so?? Were not getting YANKED ACROSS THE MAP anymore by duskfields!. Im now able to kill TITAN BEHEMOTHS IN THEIR SUPER!!! for the love of god i could NEVER kill one before!!! I used to get one tapped everywhere by stupid hunter shurikens. after a slight wound that is. NOT ANYMORE! Stop going all drama. Id rather have a titan pop a stasis super now than hammers ANY DAY. hammers you are dead meat. stasis you just run away. hunter stasis too unless they hit you direct just run away from it ....aint rocket surgery bud.
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also you say you can still get frozen in super. guess what else can happen in super? You can DIE IN SUPER from another super....so getting frozen is WAY better because eventually you unfreeze if not killed and guess what? YOU STILL HAVE YOUR SUPER.... JUST SAYIN.
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1 ReplyBro while in super you can break out a lot quicker also, as for duskfields grenades you can still get pulled accurately if they're accurate with it
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2 RepliesAs a completely anti stasis guy I can’t disagree with you more. At this point you might want to take a look at yourself and analyze what you’re doing wrong and how you can improve. Not trying to be a dick but stasis has been toned down a ton!!
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1 ReplyI can be standing in a Sunspot and get frozen instantly. This is somehow logical according to Bungie.
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Edited by chrdragon: 3/30/2021 12:34:45 PMthey nerfing stasis allready and for just plain one shooting use solar it is still best as all years ago where stasis needs 3-5 hits to kill someone solar will one shot everyone even high resilliance ones. pve stasis is staying same what helps due to the elemental wombo combos for pvp stasis is acutually below solar and arc and void damage wise and their only good thing is the cc. that others elemental members can deal more damage to. at leats that what i seen in pvp both crucibel and gambit! another thing pvp works best by using auto aim targeting weapons that are fire forget due to server script is more accurate then any human best option is solar build with auto aim weapons have highest hit rate by far all one needs keep in mind dodge all zone area placed attacks. what might work on and off due to slow input reposn times. since destiny 2 is about 20% skill and 80% depend on how fast your input respons is in a match. the slower your input respons to the match the less likely your skill will matter. due to you will not be able to react with an input in time.
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2 RepliesYou're smoking crack. Literally none of this is going on. Stasis supers are weak af because of these nerfs. I have been playing crucible for over six hours straight just today and I have neither seen or experience a single issue you listed. It's people like you who are getting pvp further ruined with all these buffs and nerfs you're demanding of stupid things. The only thing that NEEDS nerfing is how powerful shotguns are against supercharged guardians. Shotguns should not be doing 8m one shots on any kind of supercharged guardians. This stasis cry us sad. You just want stasis to be useless because you literally have not learned how to deal with ice. I get shit on regularly by people who know how to play my ice abilities out. Get out of here with your BS dude.
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long ass post to say, you haven't changed how you play at all if you are still getting frozen with the same consistency. people stop blaming the game and Bungie for your shortcomings. admit to yourself you caused your own death, what could you have done differently? then actually do differently.................
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Really.. stasis is a joke now lol besides the extra stats you get from the fragments! Titan super is strong but is easy to take down now, warlocks have the best super after nerf... but still prefer dawnblade myself gor mobility... hunters super is a joke! And the slow/freeze on hunter is laughable lol I would say stasis is in a balanced spot compared to light subclasses.. minus the extra stats
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Kind of sounds like you need to adjust how you play.
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6 RepliesEdited by xNBK-YOTIEx: 3/29/2021 5:48:18 PMMan, you guys aren’t going to quit until stasis is complete garbage.....
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19 RepliesEdited by michael: 3/30/2021 4:26:28 PMThe replies in this thread are horrific. Bunch of people who don't even play pvp coming in with their "nerfs are scary" mentality. The future of this game is hopeless when people who do their 3 crucible games for a milestone and dont play for a week are fighting the feedback from dedicated pvp players. If you don't play PvP i have no problem with you expressing YOUR gripes with it and sharing why you avoid it. I will listen and sympathize because I have always felt that the feedback from people who don't participate in something is critical to development, as there is clearly a reason for them not to play. But when you have <500 hours in PvP and start telling me that my critically developed opinions backed by thousands of hours of experience are wrong, at the end of the day there is no less valid opinion than that which lacks experience. You can call this elitist and maybe it is but I am exhausted from people having no idea what they are talking about and speaking their minds from a position of blatant ignorance, bias, and lack of experience. I have a folder full of 30+ clips of me dying to stasis or using stasis to get kills in situations where without stasis I would not be dying or getting the kills. In every clip I can break down my movement, my game sense in the moment, and why in every situation I made all the right choices and still died regardless. I could make an hour long video breaking down the clips. If some Jimmy on the forum with 300 hours and a 0.95 tells me that I just need to get better and outplay stasis I could not care less.
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Quit whining and asking for so many god dang nerfs. The whole pint of stasis is freeze at this point get used to it. Yes it sucks at times but the nerfs essentially brought them in line with everything else. Y’all complain so much that tbh you guys asking for constant nerfs are what’s ruining pvp and everything fun in it
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1 ReplyMaybe you should stop playing the game. First off. Stasis is a darkness subclass. Darkness subclasses are supposed to be stronger than the light subclasses on the trade-off that they regen slower on abilities and supers. Second, duskfield grenades don't pull anywhere near from the distance they used to, in fact they hardly pull at all now and are super easy to get out of now. Third, hunters now have to use both shurikens plus either a dodge or a duskfield grenade to freeze someone; it's no longer overbearing and super cheesy like it once was but still really good. Chaining your shuriken can still kill people if they're huddled up. Fourth, warlock rifts do not and cannot freeze through walls, they can slightly bend corners but they do not go through walls and if you happen to get frozen by a freezing rift that's on you because rifts in general are ass but freezing rift is even worse because it only freezes on activation. Fifth, of course your get shattered through walls with the warlock super. Its a shockwave it's supposed to be able to do that. How else would you get kills with the super if you weren't able to shatter what's in your AoE? That's like when someone has the bass in their car turned all the way up and it's rattling your windows from like 4 cars away. You just complain too much. Honestly stop playing if everything is gunna be a problem. There are light subclasses that still contend with stasis, at least super to super. Maybe if you quit being a shotgun ape you wouldn't be running into those problems.
