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11/7/2018 5:34:15 PM
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Not Respecting Others’ Beliefs
The phrase “I respect your beliefs” is used too often, and used when it shouldn’t be. If someone holds a belief that is truthfully inaccurate, or morally wrong, then it DOES NOT need to be respected.
You can still hold respect for that person and for his/her right to hold said belief.
Rant over.
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#Offtopic
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2 RepliesI normally don’t tell others that I’m a Christian cuz many people get so butthurt over that
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Edited by deatheater200: 11/11/2018 2:49:08 AMYou have a right for your own opinion/beliefs, doesn't mean I have to respect it.
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1 Replyi don't concern myself with others beliefs unless they effect the quality of the tacos they are making me.
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2 RepliesDisagree. There is a difference between the Person.....The Belief....and how that person relates to that belief. All are separate moral judgements. I can---and do---respect or not respect all oft them indepedantly. You can have beliefs and actions that I agree with...but I still don't respect you as a person because you do other things that I object to. Or you fail to live up to the beliefs you claim to hold. How I relate to your beliefs, depends on what they are....not whether I agree with them. I arguing on another thread with someone who is clearly and vehemently pro-life. He believes that human life begins at conception, and abortion is murder. I DON'T SHARE THAT VIEW. However, I RESPECT his right to believe that....and to life his OWN life according to that belief. Then there at beliefs that are simply reprehensible and violate what I consider to be Universal Human values. While living in a free society requires me to TOLERATE someone having those beliefs (for example White Supremacy, White Nationalism), those beliefs are not worthy of respect. In fact they are only worthy of contempt. Then there is the matter of how do you relate to those beliefs. Do you respect personal boundaries....or do you feel you have the right to impose your will upon others. I have no problems with respecting people who are pro-life. I have no problems respecting the belief that life begins at Conception, even though I don't agree with it. What I DO have a problem with is the AUTHORITARIAN posture so many people who are pro-life take with respect to their beliefs and their readiness to impose them on others. They believe they are Right. They believe that God is on their side....and therefore they have the right to impose their will upon others to do what THEY believe is right. (Conveniently ignoring Jesus' instruction to The Apostles to simply move on should they encounter someone who is not open the Gospels, not use whatever means to force their compliance). This is how you wind up with atrocities. Because you're now into the same mindset that Al-Qaeda, The Taliban and ISIS fall back upon to justify the things they do. [i] "All of histories worst atrocities were not committed by monsters. Instead they were committed by ordinary men and women who were absolutely positively convinced that they were right (and therefore justified in whatever they did as a result)." -----Eckhardt Tolle. [/i]
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Yeah it works in some occasions. For a good example : John is a catholic while his friend is jewish. They respect each other’s beliefs. Bad example ; Josh thinks anyone who isn’t white should die and he is very [b]very[/b][b]VERY[/b] wrong.
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It all depends on who holds what position. Also, I apologize (I remember we've had arguments) if I said that I respect your opinion. What I mean to say is that I am sorry if it [b]annoyed [/b]you. I still respect your opinions, seeing as they're quite common.
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4 RepliesSoooo.....I’m not supposed to respect the person who believes they’re an attack helicopter..... or trans...... or anything that science and biology has said they are, yet they contend they aren’t...... Interesting......
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3 RepliesIf someone has a toxic or detrimental opinion, I'm not going to respect their opinion or them as a person. For example, this is one interaction I've had when speaking to one of the townies here: "Your kind needs to learn to speak English better. We don't want or need your ching chong language here in America." The above opinion is more eloquent than what the individual said, but that's pretty much what he said in a nutshell. For opinions like that, I have no respect for that person's opinion or value their input in anything. If they have an opinion as detrimental and regressive as that, they have nothing of value to contribute to a conversation, guaranteed.
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I feel like people conflate belief with opinion a bit too much. There’s no reason to automatically respect a belief. You should always respect an opinion.
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1 ReplyYeah. Usually when ghetto people come up to me and start talking I already know they have nothing of worth to say.
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Be egalitarian regarding people, be elitist regarding beliefs.
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2 RepliesI’m islamophobic btw.
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That's a slippery slope. " Truthfully inaccurate " is a point that can be debated at times all the way to what is scientific fact vs. theory. For others " truthfully " is based upon[i] their[/i] belief system or choice of faith so that word alone is enough for debate on this statement. Then we have " morally wrong " morals are the fulcrum between an [i]individuals'[/i] idea of what is right and what is wrong. Socially we have what could be determined as accepted morals but that doesn't make them universal. The issue of abortion is one that is heatedly debated and even though individuals have opinions on whether or not it's moral groups of people disagree about it's morality. So, who stands as judge when it comes to either respecting or disrespecting one another's beliefs? Clearly, we have no flawless measure to lift up or abolish what one person chooses to cast their belief into verses another. I feel it could be best to either agree or peacefully disagree with one another in terms of what we choose to believe.
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Remember kids: Respect is earned, not given. If you base your beliefs on research and facts then that is respectable. If you just believe whatever you want and deny anything and everything that could prove that belief wrong by plugging your ears and flailing, then you're going to be treated as the child you are.
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[quote]The phrase “I respect your beliefs” is used too often, and used when it shouldn’t be. If someone holds a belief that is truthfully inaccurate, or morally wrong, then it DOES NOT need to be respected. You can still hold respect for that person and for his/her right to hold said belief. Rant over.[/quote] i can respect your opinion on the misuse of the phrase of respecting of others beliefs... O_o
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5 RepliesNah -blam!- morals they only limit us!
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Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 11/8/2018 1:08:34 AMRespect people. Not ideas. Which is what beliefs that rely solely on faith are. And bad ideas should be questioned and criticized.
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4 Replies[quote]The phrase “I respect your beliefs” is used too often, and used when it shouldn’t be. If someone holds a belief that is truthfully inaccurate, or morally wrong, then it DOES NOT need to be respected. You can still hold respect for that person and for his/her right to hold said belief. Rant over.[/quote] Although I agree, morals can vary depending on person to person
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2 RepliesIs it possible to respect a certain opinion yet completely disagree with it?
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3 Replies“I respect your beliefs” is just a polite way of saying “I don’t respect your beliefs at all but I also don’t want to get into a massive argument about it”.
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2 RepliesSame goes for the whole "I respect your opinion" statement. I don't like how some people will defend themselves by stating it's their opinion and opinions aren't right or wrong.
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4 Replies[quote]If someone holds a belief that is truthfully inaccurate, or morally wrong, then it DOES NOT need to be respected.[/quote] What if there's no way of knowing if it's right or wrong?
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2 RepliesIsn’t it unproductive to let the person know you don’t respect his beliefs.
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Exactly, believe it or not I do respect a persons choice to believe in delusions, story I mean religion. They need to respect my beliefs that it's all bollocks tho 😂 On a related note halal meat is a barbaric practice and needs to be banned, religious or not.
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I respect the person. I DO NOT respect their beliefs. But if they ask me to back off, stop, or something else, I’ll comply as long as it’s within reason.
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7 RepliesI do not respect your belief that you should not respect someone’s belief!
