This isn't just a Destiny problem but mostly just a gaming problem in general. Honestly the main reason why I can't really get into the competitive playlist isn't surprisingly due to the "imbalance" in the game, but it's the pure narcissism and bigheadedness in the playlist. Maybe it's just me but I can't really see the joy in a fire team of four winning a game that was 4-3 on survival saying "get -blam!-ed" I understand the joy and pride in winning a game BUT when people just get both salty and rude after winning is something I'll never understand. Maybe it's just me. What does the rest of the community think?
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I've been in a couple of "competitive" clans over the past 6 months or so. This toxicity is part of the reason why I left and have stopped playing PvP as much. People were just talking shit to each other. Constantly. Hell, we'd match another team we'd never even heard of and after the game it was never "GG," it was always some bullshit like "wow you suck heavy crutching -blam!-" or "lol git gud you stat farmers." I'm a competitive person, but I'm not a combative person, and I'd rather not make enemies. I was just sick of the attitudes of the people I was playing with and against. Constantly flaunting their stats to anyone who would listen and putting down everyone they played against and even the people they played with. The other reasons why I stopped playing were a realisation that I was never going to be as good as I wanted to be, and a general disinterest in playing the game. It's just not fun for me anymore, and I don't care about it. I'm genuinely considering not playing until September.
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2 RepliesEdited by ¯\_(ツ)_/¯: 6/9/2018 10:50:50 PMI don't do it because it's not my style, but there are absolutely people who teabag and do shitty dances after a set specifically to get to the opponents. I feel like it's a valid strategy. If someone gets tilted from silly stuff like that, that's a weakness in their game that they likely need to address. We tend to play poorly when we're irritated or down on ourselves. One way to counter this, mentally, is to not attribute malice to the individuals doing the teabagging/gloating, but to see their actions as calculated moves on their part to attempt to make you play poorly, an attempt to eliminate a threat. It certainly helps me to just approach it as another method the opposing player is using to try to trip me up, rather than them just being an asshole. Post-match hate mail is something else entirely. That just deserves a block.
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Very Simple - anonymous. There is virtually no accountability or risk in being a mouthpiece whatsoever.
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I don't do Competitive because most of the players don't know how to use anything other than meta weapons. Sure it works but what's the point of it if everyone exploits every little loop hole just to win a match? Isn't it supposed to be skill based?
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4 RepliesEdited by PilksUK: 6/8/2018 10:37:46 PMI hate games like Counter strike PvP that is just run around and kill as quick as possible it's not fun....and well that's D2... I avoid PvP as much as I can and I hate the fact I have to currently do it to level up can't wait till that grind is over... I have started just standing their doing emotes until the match is over now tho find that more fun that actually playing it lol
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*person wins gunfight cause you were low from the last gunfight and their buddy was helping them out *teabags and emotes on your body cause they’re “MLG”
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4 RepliesHonestly man if a virtual achievement means so much to some one that they further rub it in they probably arent getting any achievements in life. My best advice is to troll these ppl. Try asking if they want a girlfriend. Or say “good job you beat a girl” watch how fast attitudes change after that. Lol
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Usually this is the reaction you’ll get after plying someone who just lost 10 straight matches and had to lfg better players to actually win a match
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I think that you should get over it
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4 RepliesI think you're dealing with a lot of young people who were never taught how to handle that competitive energy with any sort of class, respect or restraint. IOW....with "sportsmanship."
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I learned a new word today.
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I fell like I haven’t accomplished anything if I don’t gain at least one salty message from a teammate or opponent. My team lost a clash match 47-50 and a teammate messaged me saying “he hopes we all die” for not winning. When In fact his match k/d was less than mine.
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3 RepliesThis game is trash
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3 RepliesEdited by vxvxTITANxvxv: 6/11/2018 5:56:20 PMThe whole game is abundant with narcissists.
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My favorite type PVP player are those that get their asses absolutely handed to them and then feel the need to inform the victorious players that they’re “trash” via PMs that are borderline unintelligible. The absolute lack of self awareness is a pure joy to witness in general. I truly cherish those moments.
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I suppose it's a way for some to legally bully and be offensive others without consequences. They probably would do it to others in real life as well if they could get away with it.
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Edited by ol azo: 6/9/2018 4:10:20 AMI'm suprised to see this post, let alone to see it with up votes. Destiny is pretty unique in that it builds on the player's pride in a special way. I've been playing fps games for a very long time and people do not get so hurt on any other game. The whole "bad ass" vibe that the game gives Guardians extends out to some people. That pride brings out the most ridiculous emotion driven behavior, it's kind of funny. Especially when they're not even good. After talking with some very... dedicated Trials players, it's made clear why I'll get bagged after I kill the same person 8 times. People hold their stupid video game character way too close to themselves. Of course, it's that combined with the general narcissism that comes with a lot of gamers. Just pointing out some Destiny exclusive problems. A lot of people don't get that it doesn't hurt to not always be lashing out at other people.
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Good topic to bring up, interesting to read everyone’s responses as well .
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4 RepliesFeeling superior for a moment when you rarely do in life. That's pretty much it. Its competitive nature. Which is essentially proving worth. This has always been around, even in gaming. The thing I've seen changed recently though is honor of victory. And I'm not talking about tea bagging. I'm talking about playing fair. In my day, if you used a glitch, or a "easy/unfair" set up or play style, you wouldn't gain respect from anyone around you. I am good at games. But I suck at mortal kombat type games. I cant combo. I dont know why. I cant. I always got my but kicked. But I never practiced either. One day I played a character in mortal kombat and did a leg sweep with 1 button. Super easy. Turns out I was able to essentially use that move, knock them down, and use it again before they had a chance to get up and strike me. I just had to get the timing right. That part wasnt hard for me. From that point on, I was unbeatable, as long as I got that 1 knock down, I could repeat the same move over and over and guarentee a win. So my friends started doing the same thing, since it's all they could do to battle my cheap tactic. The game turned into something completely different. It wasnt fun anymore. We then agreed not to use that move to keep the game interesting and skill based even though I went back to losing. I didnt see myself as good by playing cheap. They didnt see me as good. I was using a cheap tactic and forcing others to use it as well to keep the game fair for them. When in reality, they were just better, and I wasnt using cheap tactics to keep it fair. That's the difference between then and now. Games have always had "cheap" unfair mechanics, weapons, and glitches. The more time goes one. The more I see masses using them and transforming games into something totally different. In my day, masses looked down on those players. Didnt grant them respect or praise. But today, people say, its playing "smart". Everyone wants the op gun. In cod. There was a grenade launcher attachment. It essentially guaranteed 1 or 2 kills every life. It was OP. Easy to use. It was the best attachment for players without thumbs. Yet you only saw maybe 1 or 2 players using it on a team of 6-8. Why? Because there was no challenge. It didnt make you feel good. It felt cheap. If people had used it the way we use op things today....cod would have never been popular. It would have been renamed noob tube duty. I would have stopped playing if it's all I ran into. But when everyone around you uses it. It becomes almost impossible to play without using it as well. It's not just studios and game developers changing for the worse. So are gamers. I couldn't even use an auto in trials in d1, because of this concept. Only like the top 1% of players could use it effectively because 99% used snipers, shotguns, and hand cannons. It's so hard to balance games today, because of the players.
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Some people imbue this game with an importance that far outweighs its actual value. They believe that achievement in virtual reality is more important than being nice, kind, humble and polite. Hence those that come up against them they treat with disrespect and rudeness because they believe you are attempting to interrupt their virtual accomplishments! They have no life. You do, I am sure. Be the better person, ignore them or complement them with a “well played” or “good game” .. But just be better than them...
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You are like me, a non competitive person. So stay you yourself out of there.
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To be honest; recently I’ve been getting complements? It’s the strangest thing. Recently on Smite(MOBA) someone on the other team shot me a message saying “dude you’re the best Thanatos I’ve seen” Honestly didn’t know how to reply I’m so used to getting salt messages that good hearted ones like that come across as borderline sarcastic
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I fought a couple of 1v4s already. While most teams just get the job done there are some that actually T-Bag in that situation. At the end they just embarrass themselves.
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10 RepliesEdited by Bacon Wrapped: 6/8/2018 2:30:58 PMI play a decent amount of crucible (I'm of average skill) and I rarely encounter people like this. Maybe you mean people being silly with their emotes after winning or killing you, but that's a game mechanic that probably isn't going anywhere. I don't do it (because emotes are a bit dumb) but I realize they're just part of the game. One time time, about two months ago, I was running solo in Control match on Burning Shrine and we won. I managed, without trying very hard, to pick up heavy ammo about three times allowing me to rocket the crap out of folks camped out in territory 2. Territory 2 on Burning Shrine is basically fish in a barrel, but after the game someone sent me a message saying something like "great job camping rockets highly skilled person!" I replied "THANKS" and moved onto the next match. People do take this stuff very seriously sometimes, but it doesn't mean you have to. It's leisure time, which is rare for most of us, so try to make the best of it by not letting the lowest common denominator bother you as much. It doesn't matter.
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6 RepliesEdited by BESERKER sdmf: 6/9/2018 1:39:03 AMIt's a gaming wide phenomena, tbh I think there is a bit of a lost art to trash talking. Over this past gen and on the later part of the previous gen ya just get cookie cutter swears and cussing. Its lazy A.F . Hell I reckon if ya gonna talk smack at least be inventive with ya insults 😂