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8/24/2017 11:51:05 PM
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Excited to Try New Nightfall Experience
For a long time now the nightfall hasn't given me the rush typical of endgame content. With the advent of time limits and locked loadouts though, I feel like that rush may return.
Time limits always add a sense of urgency. Bungee tried to bring that urgency back with the Sunrise bounty time limit. Unfortunately, once you had Icebreaker it didn't really matter anymore. If I understand correctly, the new time limit is absolute. You don't finish in time? Tough shit. Locked loadouts will require players to use forethought and teamwork if they intend to finish in time.
I think these 2 elements combined may bring back the endgame feel the nightfalls have been missing if they're implemented properly.
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From what i`ve seen in the EDZ vids, from my beta experience , the game is a total bullet sponge. Nightfalls will be nightmare stuff. Challenge is good, creating frustration is bad. I think that most of the content will be nightmare lvl stuff.
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Lol....you won't be high enough light week 1
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4 RepliesExactly what I wanted in a game I play for fun and recreation, a f-cking time limit. Maybe make it "harder" by actually designing a challenging activity, how about that? But no. Bullet sponges, weapon nerfs and time limits. "Fun"
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1 ReplyI would honestly rather have the boot to orbit rather than timer. Particularly to start the game.
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6 RepliesI haven't had a desire to do the nightfall since 3oc became a thing. Neither have any of my friends. Most of them stopped playing shortly after that because it was too easy to get things. No reason to really do the nightfall any more. I'm hoping exotics are a bit more difficult to come by. Not so hard that casual players can't get them at some kinda reasonable frequency, but not so easy that we can get all of them within a week.
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Good for you, some of us aren't happy with these changes and think its a sign that Bungie really doesn't give a shit about its community which is disheartening and enraging.
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Pfft, I say not far enough! Bring back the old 2d mechanic where the level scrolls forcing you forward at a pace. In Destiny it could just be a swirling black wall of darkness that creeps slowly behind you until the boss encounter, effectively eliminating any camping strategies.
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6 RepliesIs it always going to be timed, or is it a random modifier like trickle or arc burn?
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1 ReplyI just hope it's tough, like the very first nightfall, under levelled, under equipped and brutal. Nothing worse for a gaming experience for me than breezing through stuff. Always play games on higher difficulty such as Horizon etc because it's just far more fun and has more longevity too.
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2 RepliesEdited by Lithari81: 8/25/2017 3:49:36 PMYou do know, this will just bring the classic MMO attitude......"are you max max geared, perfectly spec'd?? no? then piss off" While i never had the chance to do any nightfall or raids in destiny since i didn't know anyone and they were not smart enough to add in matchmaking for them, they did it for crucible.......for 12 players, they could have done it for nightfalls and raids. I mean, if Bungie don't plan to enforce rules for player behavour when it comes to forming groups, because if they expect players to be fair and mature, then they are greatly misjudging majority of the playerbase. When i played World of Warcraft, i had a fully geared feral druid, cleared pretty much everything except the last boss of the last section of the endgame raid and because i didn't have the BEST of the BEST gear, i got kicked from the raid because i hadn't cleared a raid so far harder than the said raid, it was obvious why....they want easy and quick completions for more loot, faster. That is what will happen with loadout lockouts along with the time limit? it will be far worse, use the best perks and be max geared or get rejected....that is how it is in most, if not all MMOs and destiny and destiny 2 are a form of MMO.
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3 RepliesTime Limit is for the Top Tier reward. You still get rewarded for completing I believe. Now the question is: If I beat it past the limit and get a low tier reward, can I rerun and beat it under the limit and get the top tier reward.
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Yeah and lfg tryhards are gonna get nuts with requirements. 😒
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1 ReplyI'd say Heroic should be kept as 30 minutes, change Prestige to half that and give 15 minutes while being more difficult. ~[i]TheGreatNike[/i]
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Holy sh!t stains batman. I fell asleep during your whole technical/phycological analysis. I'm a gonna finds ya at Crucible time and slap you silly. For the war cult of course.
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3 RepliesEdited by P74SM4-W4V3: 8/25/2017 3:11:23 PMAs has been said, I don't know why they can't just re-initiate being kicked to orbit for a team wipe. After all that's why the original endgame activity was called Nightfall.
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2 RepliesArtificial difficulty Return boot to orbit instead of restarting at checkpoint. Make loot table worth the challenge.
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I never ever change my load out for nightfall. I check modifiers and choose a loadout it's that simple. Locked load outs dont Increase the difficulty in any way what so ever. The time limit is just trying to stop solo players so the game doesn't look as easy. In no way shape or form does this add difficulty or value to nightfalls IMO.
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Edited by Swiftlock: 8/25/2017 7:50:48 AMI don't really get a rush from "artificial" difficulty such as slapping on limits and restrictions to an otherwise straightforward encounter. That's less so a test of honest skill and moreso a test of how many mobs you can run past and whether or not RNG has given you the proper guns to suit the modifiers.
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This will be "artificial" difficulty that will wear off the moment the community is 10-20 light above whatever is recommended. Locked loadouts will not be a major deal and probably won't require as much (if any) pre activity fire team planning as is intended. And timers as we've seen before in this game are set long enough that they're pretty much moot (with the exception of the BS run). We will never have those first time D1 feels ever again. When it boils down to it's essentially the same game that's been dumbed down for the masses. This being said, I am absolutely ready for a new story and slightly modified activities but I really don't expect to many of those "wow" moments that came with D1.
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2 RepliesThe timer and lack of special ammo will suck
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2 RepliesEdited by Faith1essZealot: 8/25/2017 3:26:09 AMI'm going to be that asshole and point out that if you need a time limit, then its not challenging content. Its punishing bull-blam- Countless content-creators have gone off at length about the difference between challenging and punishing gameplay here's just one example:[url=https://youtu.be/ea6UuRTjkKs ]link[/url] My frustration as a bungie fan is the developer's continued apparent lack of understanding of the difference between the two concepts.
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I don't like the timer idea. I'll obviously have to wait and see for myself, but I don't see myself liking it. It's just another way of them forcing solo players to try and find someone else to play with. While I have a group and clan I play with regularly, I also spend a lot of time solo. Beating Nightfall solo and getting something good was one of the most rewarding things in Destiny to me. I also used it for bounties, materials, farming engrams, etc. Rushing through it as fast as possible limits all that. I don't know. I'll have to wait and see. But I don't think I'll like the timer.
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2 RepliesWell there are pros and cons. From what we have learned so far in D1, NF changed due to feedback from us. Boot to orbit was taken out bcz of whatever (doesn't matter now). Timer is a challenge mode, I sometimes like playing NF slowly for fun so from the looks of it this mode might be removed. I think Bungie will be forced to revisit this decision as always bcz either the vocal minorty will trash it or the community will salt it. My worse fear is that it will become another weekly stream carry marketing business just like ToO but for PvE buffs. That will be sad 😢
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When NF was hard, and completions were a reward themselves, I cared.
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I agree, nightfalls are supposed to be a challenge, it actually requires planning with your gear and efficacy in the level.
