... nerfs like the Black Hammer whiff hard because it's more than a nerf to the gun, it's a nerf of fun, it's a nerf of the feeling of having powerful gear, and it's a nerf in the confidence that what you own will stay dependable and good. When I first saw the BH drop for a friend I thought 'meh'. But I remember the first time I saw somebody use it to shred a spider tank and I realised that what appeared to be an average sniper had a very kick ass use. So I grinded to get one. I was approaching 100 Crota kills by the time it dropped. I had hardly been so excited. I hurriedly levelled it up and became a tank killing machine. Eventually 2 more BHs dropped for me and all of my characters had one stowed away for the right encounter. I even ran PoE and ascended all of them. Like Bungie wanted to, I invested in my gear, and my gear had my 'story'. But now the BH is about to become a regular sniper, below average even. According to Bungie they didn't anticipate people would use it against bosses so effectively (which means they're either lying or they have their dumb stat maxed because how could you not anticipate its effectiveness against bosses!?). How is that OP? I don't see Sepiks or Sekrion on these forums calling for a BH nerf, who is it hurting? This means that bosses will take longer to kill, yay. But it also means that my feeling of investment in those weapons is now nerfed. It also means that every weapon I really enjoy in this game is not safe, my investment in my existing gear is nerfed. It means if I find a really sweet, kickass weapon in the future, I shouldn't get excited and invested, I should expect that it too can be altered and reduced to below average. It's not exciting to play a game where you feel like a total badass space adventurer, knowing that at any moment the stuff that makes you feel like you're powerful and having fun can be nerfed. Bungie doesn't seem to have a roadmap for this game. I dismantled my VoG gear because of the limited vault space and their stats were 'frozen in time' but Bungie went back on that. So I went and got them back. Then I went and sunk etheric light into the BH and now Bungie is going to change that. Bungie lack direction, the lack commitment. What gear should I level and ascend? What will become useless in the future and what gear will be good when Bungie decides you should be playing a certain way? These nerfs aren't just to weapons. They're nerfing fun, they're nerfing the feeling of investment, they're nerfing the feeling of being powerful, they're nerfing my excitement about finding new and more powerful guns, but most of all they're nerfing my confidence in them as a studio. I really feel like Bungie constantly do and say little toxic things that drive people away. The seem intent on making hard to be their fan. I've had about as much as I can take, my tipping point was the puzzlingly high $70 price for TTK in Australia - hey Bungie, while you've got the nerf bat out, why don't you nerf the price for your overseas fans? I'm not leaving, I'll still play pre-TTK content with my few friends who still play because it's a decent social experience. But my confidence in Bungie and Destiny has been nerfed, hard.