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Edited by Vishimtar: 9/25/2014 10:37:00 AM
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Stop shoving PvP down my throat, please

[b]75% of all the legendaries are gated behind pvp rep / crucible marks[/b] [b]Almost all of the exotic bounties have difficult pvp steps[/b] [i]Thorn – Exotic Handgun -- Kill Guardians in the Crucible using void damage. Deaths slow your progress greatly! Bad Juju – Exotic Pulse Rifle -- Fight in the Crucible and obtain 10,000 points and have a kill to death ratio above 1-1 Invective – Shotgun -- Fight in the Crucible and achieve 25 more kills than deaths. Fate of All Fools – Exotic Scout Rifle -- Multiple PvP steps[/i] [b]Every special event that has occurred is occurring or is scheduled to occur is pvp oriented[/b] [i]Salvage - PvP Combined Arms - PvP Queen's Wrath - PvP/PvE Iron Banner - PvP[/i] I thought Queen's bounty was going to be a pure pve event, but alas 3 out of the 4 bounties for today are, you guessed it, pvp bounties. Why the extreme bias in favor of pvp when this game was touted as a shared world, rpg style loot, exploration heavy, "play your way" kind of game? If you're going to have all these pvp events and do nothing for the pvers you're cutting yourselves off at the knees, and the description of the game offered by Bungie feels misleading. [b]Possible solutions:[/b] Give bounties dual objectives, 1 that's pvp centric and 1 that's pve centric and allow the player to choose which way to finish the bounties. Open up all of the vendors to both currencies. I understand that recycling PvP which kind of creates its own content is easier than creating something new for PvE, but I'd be happy even with a recycled content PvE event mixed in with all of the PvP events. Queen event is the best attempt at that thus far, but all of the other events are purely focused on PvP and it just feels as though the PvE is being jilted.
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  • 75%...probably more like 50%. Vanguard marks and reps also let you buy Legendaries.

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    • As someone who prefers PVP I would still agree that there should be some alternative to crucible marks. I would however point out that I have gotten 8 or so Legendary pieces and an exotic prior to the Queen's event without spending a single mark so no one is forcing you to do anything. I've found it both easier and faster to get these items via PVE.

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    • This needs more likes. Also, Bungie, when are you going to pull your head out of your ass? I loved this game for the 20-30 hours of non-repetitive gameplay it had, now the mere thought of having to cross my fingers while playing in mere HOPES of increasing my level. What the -blam!- made you think the light leveling system with random loot drops was a good idea? Even when I'm doped up on my ADD medicine, I couldn't care less to sit and grind the same damn raids over and over with no guarantee of useful reward. People bitch about others using the loot cave and call it an exploit. It's the same damn concept as grinding the raids, only it's much more efficient. Believe me, I use the word efficient loosely as there is nothing efficient about this game except for it being an efficient waste of time.

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      • Well said

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      • But didn't you hear? It's [i]Competitive[/i] Multiplayer. You're missing out on so much. I mean it says [i]Competitive[/i], it [b]must[/b] be true!

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      • I'm not a PVPer (check my awful stats) and I disagree with you. I did four Queen's bounties last night and one of her missions. None were PVP.

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        • Will playing PvP help with getting Destiny ported to game gear?

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          • So many tears in this one simple post...

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          • Glad to know I'm not alone on this thought. I love the people, hate pvp, yet they keep trying to draw us into the crucible with these bounty lures. If I wanted to go there, I would go. I'm level 27 Warlock and once I top him out I will make a Titan and Hunter as well. I just hope we will see some pve special events too. I'm still staying optimistic since the game is only two weeks old, let's hope it is not for nothing.

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            • lol

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            • Edited by KeyserSoze: 9/24/2014 5:15:45 PM
              I got Crucible gear doing Strikes and Story missions....Crucible gear is not locked behind a wall, it has just as much chance of dropping as anything else. FYI Additionally I have gotten two exotic weapon bounties and neither require any PvP, so I don't think that is accurate.

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            • Edited by Lord Coxington: 9/24/2014 5:05:53 PM
              While I agree with what you're saying, the pvp related gear is more about aesthetics, and the same gear stats can be found on pvp gear as well as PvE. Also, legendary engrams have a chance to be the pvp weapons and gear. So, don't do pvp, you'll get the same gear with visuals being the only difference. I do understand the complaint on the exotics though. Would be nice if there were options for each stage to avoid a aspect of the game that you don't enjoy.

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            • I've just about had it with this game. PvP should never be mandatory for anything. This game was marketed as a PvE game, doing Story mode the build your legend, strikes, raids, and free roam. PvP is suppose to be a side thing for people who enjoy that shit. I tried to do a PvP bounty today, hopped into rumble only to be facing 5 people who use nothing but shotguns and rockets. Sorry, I will not play your shitty PvP, and I'm over 2.0 k/d I'm not even bad it's just the MP is this game is garbage and the only thing that keeps me even remotely interested is the PvE which I honestly am getting sick of, it's not fun beating the raid 2 weeks in a row only to see people you carried get godly loot and you get nothing but -blam!-ing shards and energy, whoever thought random loot was a good idea needs a swift kick in the face. If you do a raid you should get something good for beating it, if you do a strike you should get something good for beating it, if you like pvp and hit MVP of the game you should get something good, not the lowest guy in the lobby who went 2-25 and barely contributed anything, yeah he gets exotic weapon and you get a big fat -blam!- you. This game is -blam!-ing bullshit sometimes

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              • I completely agree. If I want to play pvp I'll play halo or titianfall or Cod. I don't care about ur pvp. I compare this game to the greatness of borderlands guess what.. There is no pvp. And having played alot of pvp games Destiny's is lacking

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              • I think what Bungie would say... "No and you will make that damn warlock and hunter or we won't give you gear for your".

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              • Why do you keep shoving pve down my throat? 75% of leveling/gear requires pve and half of the daily bounties are always pve! And if I ever want the best gear I'm forced to do the pve raid. Stop forcing us pvpers to do repetitive pve stuff all the time!

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                • Whaa whaa whaa. So, how are the people who bought the game for the PvP only supposed to lvl up? Bungie only created the best PvP experience on a console. The game is fair, I was never a story dude but I've learned to play it and enjoy it. Whaa whaa whaa

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                • I have bad news for you, the next new planet is probably only going to be accessible through PvP.

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                • PvP would be nice if it weren't an over-sterilized, basic shooter. They are so many directions to go, and yet they do not pursue them. [i]It's too safe.[/i] It seems like they are scared to acknowledge or utilize their experiences with Halo. At least this point in the games life, The Crucible is just a simple, shallow shootout. [b]Evolve will quench my thirst though.[/b]

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                  • Yeah the PvE is lacking. But I wouldn't say 75% of gear is pvp. The three factions are based off any rep u get. Crucible is pvp and the vanguard is pve. I do agree the bounties and other stuff is bs though.

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                    • At least let us do PvP with competitive weapons... This scout rifle with head shots is annoying as hell in PvP.

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                    • >"Stop shoving PvP down my throat" >QW & Exotic Bounties are completely optional >leedleleedleleedleleedle

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                      • This game is coming from the guys who made Halo. A heavy PvP shooter. And honestly, not all the guns are hiding behind the crucible. That's just one way of getting gear. I've gotten all my legendary gear from engrams doing PvE. I get the frustration of the bounties but that's not the only way to get it.

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                      • I agree, please give more options to non PvPers

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                      • You're not forced to play PvP in the first place.

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                      • Edited by Final fantasy: 9/24/2014 4:34:58 PM
                        I agree with Vishimtar. I don't like pvp either because it's unbalanced in everything. Right now you would say it's more like an RPG game which one with better gear has more advantage yet how can a level 11 player with low gear and skills kill me faster?? I have a full set of legendary gears, weapons and all skills unlocked. Level 27. No matter what legendary weapon i use, i get killed faster by level 11- 17 player Hardcore gamers who play pve has to do a lot of work to beat a strike mission which most of the time gives low quality items, yet in pvp anyone can get an legendary or exotic weapn/gear/item without much affort (kills or no kills) The loot system is a joke. I guess bungie tried to make it more like a real RPG game which makes the loot drops randomly no matter how many kills you have or what difficulty you play at. If i wan't to play MP, i would prefer Halo 4 which i am very good at. I am started to get bored in this game because of - * the limitations * Unblanaced pvp * very hard missions and no rewards or rewards that makes you say wtf?. * whenever you almost finish a very hard strike/mission and suddenly you get moved to orbit and get a network error message (lol) Sorry about going a liitle bit off-topic but this is the true so stop making us play pvp because most of us don't like it !!!

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