Edit 4: [quote]Again, this thread has nothing to do with farming. It has to do with the terrible loot system in place of killing low level enemies and the morality of how you feel when you receive something good from standing around doing nothing.[/quote] [quote]The problem is that the reward system isn't rewarding. You can do 19 strikes in about 3 hours on level 24, maybe longer. You will more than likely get shit experience, blues that are inferior to your level, and the same chance of receiving rares or legendary engrams than the lower level strike before it. This is exactly like Diablo 3. How? The more enemies you kill, the faster you sift through RNG to get better chances at gear. And even then, you are -blam!-ed out of it. And even then d3 does it better. People want to argue that Nightfall is the solution. No, not at all. Vanguard rep grinding is a longer term solution. Same with crucible. Dungeons should reward you according to the time, effort, and necessity involved with getting to the next level of play. I should not have had to spam moon missions to get my legendaries, or abuse blue engrams farming to get strange coins. Implement a rewarding system that gets you the gear necessary for raids and missions. Make the missions difficult to reward tiered loot, end game gear that don't drop anywhere else. Provide higher experience rates from strikes and PvP. Reward positive win streaks and kills with higher chance for rewards to induce smarter plays. Until this happens, I'm going back to the moon.[/quote] [quote]20+ years of MMO experience and you can't see that farming level 3 mobs for level 20 gear is a broken system? I can't think of a single game where that type of farming is rewarding except for Destiny. Most games encourage you into going to high level areas for better drop rates and to farm those areas for end game gear. The fact that Destiny is the same drop rate for every level monster is what's breaking the loot system not the fact that people are farming. Not really sure how people don't understand this.[/quote] The devs did not intend for people to be earning gear in this fashion end of story. Will you get in trouble? No. Are you cheating? Only yourself. By gearing like this, you are skipping the actual gear curve and content. All that is gameplay you are missing out on, just to stand in one spot, and squeeze the trigger over and over and over again. Monotonous. Boring. So have at it, grind the cave. You'll be bored in no time and complaining that there is nothing to do and that you have all the loot already. What's the point of playing? Edit: [quote]Farming for loot to use as 20+ by killing low level monsters that people who just started the game can kill. You shouldn't even be able to get loot for your level from low level enemies. Sure you can still farm I'm okay with farming, as long as you actually have to kill monsters that are close to your level or higher to get better loot. Drops should go hand in hand with the level of monster you are killing. As your level goes up, so should the source of better gear. [/quote] [quote]He didn't say you're cheaters, only that you're cheating yourself out of a good experience. You're cheating yourself out of the little jolt of happiness that you get after doing missions and strikes and finally seeing that purple little orb drop onto the floor. You're cheating yourself out of the feeling of knowing that all the items in your inventory was earned and for some items you may even remember the raid or mission or strike that you got it from. I will agree with him, I honestly couldn't give a shit about farming. You do as you please, but please don't ruin this game when you come back screaming because your experience in this game was meaningless and when you have no real connection with the items you carry. I'll be crushing the faces of Darkness underneath my boot.[/quote] Second edit: since a majority of you coming in here keep spouting the same nonsense, just know, us who don't cave farm know that deep down inside you feel dirty doing this. Third edit: just because there isn't an economy in this game doesn't mean that there isn't events coming up that the cave farmers will completely destroy everybody. Exploiting this method, even if you don't get exotics off of it is still giving you 800 exp per minute, allowing you to fully upgrade nearly everything in a few hours time. I've said it before, have fun cutting your experience short.