[u][b]UPDATE: [/b] [/u]Okay people that dont really understand me.... i just have the problam that i dont really feel a Variety in PvP... 80% of the Enemy are Hunter and 95% are people that use Automatics... it looks just boring... you get killed all the time by 4 diffrent types of Automatics (most of the time with ridiculous high RPM)... i quess because its about 95% that use this kind of weapons in PvP (and i know how hard they can push your "skill" in PvP... just remember Beta) the people start to butthurt. Just flaming me beeing bad... even i didnt say that i lose all the time of Automatics... maybe you just have to check the statistics... its not hard here on Bungie.net [u][b]UPDATE2.0[/b][/u] PEOPLE... i get it... AR's are not Stronger than Specia and Heavy weapons... but this is about the Primary weapons and how Over used the AR is... ah and Thanks for reading that extremly bad (D)english :P ... because if not, in a couple of weeks everyplayer have to play with Automatics in PvP... this things are universal. I first tought "oh man Destiny has Iron Sights... this will become an Casual shooter at it finest" and than i saw that there are many diffrent guns that are not that "OP" with this system... and of course automatics... first i didnt saw them that much... but now i see the most time this Shingen weapons and others... in combination with the over population of Hunter = it looks dark for the PvP. And didnt the Hunter complained about the other classes first ? And now they are the most annoying class in PvP... Thats not Counter Strike where you have an Spray pattern... here you just have to correct a little bit and have the biggerst DPS. . . that was my biggerst problem at the BETA and it still is a problem. If you think that Automatics are not that "OP" than post why (and pls compare it to OTHER Primary Weapons)