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Edited by Oyik: 8/4/2014 9:52:21 AM
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You support Israel?

Watch this. Educate yourself, for once. Oh and don't listen to Dieselrose, he's full of shit.
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  • Jews also smuggled stuff in using tunnels in the Warsaw Ghetto but it's ok because they're not brown.

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      Isn't op that loser troll everyone talks about?

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    • I definitely support Israel. You will likely find this offensive, but the Palestinians have brought 99% of their problems on themselves. Furthermore, they allow terrorist groups, like Hamas, to use them as human shields. Common Myths: 1) The Palestinians were not turned from their homes. The land was purchased, and the landowners paid for their property. Obviously, the people living on said land are seldom the landowners. But, what were the new owners to do? 2) The Palestinians have been more harmed by the neighboring countries than by Israel. Look up what the Egyptians and Syrians did to the Palestinians that tried to immigrate to their country. 3) The Palestinians use anti-semetic textbooks to teach their children that Israel is the sole source of evil in the world. 4) The rockets that Hamas was firing were from areas they knew were heavily populated. Now, even when Israel has their anti-missile shield up, those shots were fired with lethal intent. Hamas, and the Palestinians wish every Jew in the world dead. How is Israel supposed to react? They take out the missile batteries. Its Hamas' fault that innicents were killed. They chose to put those launchers where they did for a reason. 5) Yes, Hamas DID put a launcher near a UN school. Which says a lot about the officials that were running that school. There are pictures from an independent French journalist that shows the launcher a few meters away from the main building. 6) Hamas has been building an infrastructure for a long time to attack Israel. ANY country would do what Israel did in its own defense. No, you look for yourself for the sources I posted. I have NO desire to post more than this, nor argue beyond this with someone masking their anti-semetism with this particular form of rhetoric.

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      • Yes.

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      • Israel can't lose a fight as there would be another Holocaust.

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        • ITT: Dieselrose steamrolls Kiyo

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        • If israel's military is one of the best in the world why does it have to resort to primitive tactics such as "BOMB EVERYTHING!" instead of precise coordinated stealth missions using soldiers to effectively exterminate hamas militants? It wouldn't be so much of a problem to use drones if Gaza wasn't so densely populated.

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            Tbh, take the Israeli casualty count and missile launch count from Gaza aimed at Israel over the past ten years. Now take Gazas casualty count and Israels number of missiles launched over the past ten years. Who outnumbers who? Also, Israel actually let's the places they bomb know they're about to be bombed, and tell them to get out.

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            • Edited by U124926: 8/10/2014 5:44:07 AM
              [quote]1 hour[/quote]Nah, I'd rather stay ignorant and spew uninformed opinions on political issues thank take the time to listen to information on the subject.

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            • Can someone inform me on whatever isreal is goin thru in a brief to the point statement

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                Ugh.

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              • So it's ok for hamas to use kids as shields? If you paid attention to the news you would know that >Israel has honored all the cease-fire agreements, but hamas has broken all of them >Israel's citizens take this seriously, they hide in bunkers when they know the rockets are coming, Hamas uses children as pawns and doesn't care if they die >Israel has done more for the Palestinians than hamas, Israel has even left mosques alone when they know there are hamas leaders inside because there are civilians nearby >Israel has only been targeting Hamas' leaders, artillery areas and tunnels, Hamas has been attacking Israel's civilians

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                • Edited by im am b0red: 8/8/2014 2:55:44 PM
                  I stand with Israel. Kiyo is embarrassing himself here...

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                  • So that soldier that was apparently kidnapped turned out it wasn't Hamas. Israel pushed it was and used that as an excuse to bomb Gaza. If you still support Israel I'm sure this can show you their true intentions.

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                    • Actually I don't. But I'm getting real tired of your shit, Shitows.

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                    • I support the country's sovereignty, yes, that's always the minimum for me, I see no reason to not recognize Israel as a nation.

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                    • I mean, if your country was bombed [b]every[/b] [b]day[/b] by a terrorist organization in charge of a whole country, you'd probably try to stop them...

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                    • Edited by Duke: 8/8/2014 7:17:27 PM
                      #Team People The ignorance in this thread reminded me why I left Bnet for a while. When you have a state which wont allow you to settle there unless you adhere to their little religion, then you have a problem. Religious states are remenants of an age humanity is better off leaving behind. That problem is exacerbated when you live under the delusion that a select deity flavors you above all else. And fyi: When a country is handing out stuff to Israel's citizens who doctor the most websites in favor of Israeli propaganda. Yeah, there probably up to no good.. When you combine the profound problems of Middle Eastern culture with the exoneration and sanctification of that same culture deliberately built into Islam, you get people who want to behave as it if were 900 AD (and not even a nice place in 900 AD), and want everyone ELSE to behave that way, too. No side is without blame. However the Israeli's forced the Palestinians to put in power a force that they potentially did fully understand. Thus the situation has worsened. If anybody wants to get slightly up to speed, I recommend Joe Rogans podcast.

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                    • Edited by MadHaze_01: 8/5/2014 3:04:33 PM
                      I seen this a while ago . I have indeed educated myself with this issue and many others. We should all educate our selves more and take what we hear on the news with a large grain of salt. It's beyond Corrupt. You will never understand what's happening in the Middle east if you listen to Fox ,CNN ,BBC ,ITV etc. They NEVER talk about the rout of the problem. Here is another word for you to look up. "Balfour declaration" Educate your selves. :) Look up . John Pilger , Antony Sutton , Oliver Stone. There are many more..... and what about this speech. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces It doesn't take a genius to connect some obvious dots. No one nation of people are to blame. There are good and bad every where. We ..."the people" are innocent. Just a little Brain washed. :) Governments are no longer "Sovereign" it would seem. It's better to listen to people who know their field of expertise , rather than people on a games Forum. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnc6Kt-7vjc Possibly the best site on the net: http://johnpilger.com/ (Edit ..fair play to the admins here for moving this topic instead of Deleting it. This is an important issue that we should no longer shy away from)

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                    • #FreePalestine

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                      • I support israel!

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                      • I don't.

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                      • Edited by relliK42: 8/6/2014 12:44:53 AM
                        I support neither as both Israel and Palestine have made some terrible choices. The end doesn't justify the means. Also I would say that, from a debate standpoint, Diesel has totally won. Simply denying his counter arguments because, "he's full of shit" doesn't help your argument. Kiyo you'd be ripped apart by any pro-Israeli/pro-Palestine individual who knows how to properly support and debate for a cause.

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                      • I Support Israel.

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                      • I'm guessing Dieselrose is full of shit for providing a compelling counter argument? Go suck on some C4, I hear that's good for guys like you.

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                        • Yep. Palestine is the answer. Let them continue their suicide bombings of schools, school buses, universities, weddings... All non-military targets. Directly targeted by them. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/WATCH-Hamas-steps-up-psychological-warfare-threatens-suicide-attacks-rockets-in-Hebrew-362235 http://m.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-13331522 Discusses suicide bombings and Palestinian's support as well as their goals of destroying Israel - further proving Kiyo is wrong. http://archive.adl.org/israel/israel_attacks.html#.U99p19kazCQ More discussions about what the Palestinians and Hamas do. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/10/Hamas-Promises-Israel-Suicide-Attacks-on-Every-Bus-Caf-and-Street-in-New-Video More propaganda and threats from Hamas. http://www.idfblog.com/hamas/2013/01/21/hamas-commander-zaher-jabarin-we-teach-our-kids-to-be-suicide-bombers/ Hamas training their kids to be suicide bombers. http://www.meforum.org/2675/hamas-web-school-suicide-bombers More food for thought in regards to your beliefs that Israel are in fact bad and Palestine is the answer. I love it how stupid and blind people *cough* Kiyo *cough cough* on these forums are. Enjoy the read people.

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