Throughout the entire game's history, Hunters have been the least "broken" in PvP compared to the other classes and, when they had things that were overtuned, would get nerfed noticeably sooner than the other classes. So why oh why do Hunters get yelled at the loudest? EDIT: This is always a fun topic. I love how the forums are so staunchly anti-Hunter. So much so that they twist reality to justify their ignorance. Keep shoving those crayons down your throats. :)

PvP hasn’t been balance in ten years pal. If it could happen, it would have. So take the clue and figure it out.

Hunters have definitely been power lacking compared to titans and some warlock builds, but this rdm buff is really broken lol.

They have made many efforts to reduce Hunter populations except for the right ones. Currently RDM are overtuned in PvP which they have already acknowledged. Hunters are so common you feel their cheese is extremely prevalent. While they account for [u]42%[/u] of the population in the most competitive PvP settings, they are not always the best preforming. Your observations are just that, anecdotal. Limited to your experience. Hunters do have cheesy builds. Eras where things are seemingly easier for them. Are we to ignore the months of team wipes with knockout and dune marchers? Prismatic Titan with constant Diamond Lance that use to proc off of uncharged knockout? Over abundance of overshield, instant heals, increased flinch resistance, access to dodge. Alpha lupi healing for 150hp+ for you and your friends on thruster. Slides on behemoth. Shiver Strike slows, throws, flys, and regens 80% if used for movement. Titans had infinite shoulder charge at one time. They skate to lanes faster. Behemoth slide is still in the game. It's unfortunate that your experience is made unenjoyable by the presence of Hunters. They are common. But you kill many Hunters when playing Crucible as well as die to them. It's regrettable when things like smoke and swarm are allowed to be used together. But they are adjusted. When they nerf RDM things will stabilize again. Hunter is no more free than Titan. I'd argue significantly less than as they spent the last year trying to push Hunters to switch if you were paying attention. We can go to for -blam!--for-tat if you'd like. But I think that would be pointless. But perhaps you should consider reflecting on your perceptions rather than assuming other classes have few ways to counter. Hunters are the mobility class with the worst movement in the game. Most seek to enhance their passive game and win by gun play. Cheesy things like wombo combos and exotics are promptly nerfed or go through multiple iterations to get right. I advocated for RDM to be nerfed when paired with LW just as I thought Peacekeepers with any Sub had been breaking the game. Bungie occasionally shows weapon and class performance in different competitive tiers. There exists counters and cheese builds for everyone. If you want there to be fewer Hunters, advocate for it to be less tedious to build our alts. It's too time consuming and labor intensive to unlock everything multiple times. Give quality of life there. Make it easier and less costly to get aesthetics on our alts. Whining that Hunters make things too unenjoyable for you to enter Crucible doesn't provide substance or actionable steps.

You missed the titan arc 3.0 meta, the ICE behemoth clan in trials that never loses, and the titan SMG peacekeeper era

[quote]What seems like for the past 4 years, hunters have just been an absolute menace in the crucible. They've always been very good throughout the history of Destiny. But lately, there seems to be few things for other classes to counter their playstyles with. Since you looooooove your "numbers", have you noticed that for the longest time, hunters make up at least 66% of total players? That's solely based off my own observations. Ever 3v3 gamemode, without fail, 2 hunters on each team. In 6s, at least 4 hunters on each team. It's not even that other classes aren't good in their own right, it's just that hunters always seem to have some sort of ability or build that I can only describe as cheesy - little effort with maximum reward. Hunters genuinely make crucible unenjoyable for me. Hence why I hardly play crucible anymore.[/quote] Well give me my melee power back, give me my skip grenades backs, give me my original invis back(the cds are fine) OR Revert all the changes and completely seperate PvE and PvP......they have a real bad habit of screwing my class in PvE to make you PvP mains happy.

So we just conveniently forgot One Eyed Mask, Lorely, bubble-OS meta to name but a few? Idk what game you're currently playing but bolt charge is anything but balanced in pvp. It allows a lot of things to ohk and is way too easy to get with a barricade.

Get rekt

You whine…… like A LOT.

Y'all just love to lose your shite over hunters, regardless of pve or pvp, hunters are the hardest character to play well and are the worst character in the game atm and they get a meme exotic that's obviously overturned that's going to be disabled before trials n everyone moans about hunters, chill have fun with it, it's a game

i dont think its balance. Its subclass or exotics. Hunters gave broken crap and bungie ignores it for months to years. Warlock and titan have had their moments but difference is with Warlocks they will do a nerf on a weekend. Remember stasis? They nerfed that in 6 days or less but hunters shatter dive stayed stupid for 18 months. Hand held super nova was utterly destroyed and then removed completely. Titan loralei and one eyed mask are the only times i can recall a busted setup. Or how about max mobility stompees hunters that ruled for years.....nerfed and then returned to original. You may see more nerfs in update noted but that is because they are or were so busted and for so long no other choice but it just moves hunters to the next busted thing Nah hunters have always been ignored when broken. theer thought is since 70% of players are hunters they wont make their base popluation mad at the expense of warlocks mainly. Warlocks have always been the first to be nerfed and hunters the last if not ever.

You still closet cheating, by the way?

It’s always a Hunter meta…

Dude, the effort one has to put in to master hunters is crazy. Titans are THE Derp-Class and have it all.

While titans have the most overpowered abilities and highest power-effort ratio by far, all the no life sweats who play quickplay like their lives depend on it are hunters. (Who also only use superblack and hand cannon + shotgun lmao)