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2/11/2023 4:25:41 PM
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Power grind feels meaningless

I'm relatively new to the game and I feel like the gameplay actually starts when one reaches a higher power level. There's so much content locked behind power level and the grind to get there feels meaningless, just for the sake of grinding. I'd suggest removing powerful and pinnacle cap and just having armor drops consistently increase like they do to base cap already. The only downside would be there wouldn't really be any good rewards for doing various things but it should be simple enough to replace those with something else to entice participation

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  • Probably because the Pinnacles have been the exact same for 4 seasons straight. There's only so many times you can do Preservation or a Master Wellspring.

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    • My number is bigger than your number

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    • The game just needs menu options for setting difficulty not power levels. Either you have the gear and builds to survive challenging content or you don’t. Plenty of grind built into min maxing your character already.

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      • the purpose of the power grind is to guarantee that by the time you experience the game you have played too long to get your refund.

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        • Yeah it's weird, normally in a game you grind up your level so you can feel powerful and blast through enemies. In Destiny you can just kinda always do that from the start and the only activities that'd really let your grinding pay off (GMs and contest mode raids) cap your power anyway so it's kinda pointless rn

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        • I think one of the big problems they have is a hyper focus on a seasonal activity, like Heists, and they completely forget everything else they've done all year. I mean, I know those activities are still there. But, they have so many different battlegrounds they could have kept relevant, or cycled into Vanguard activities. But, they just leave them to rot after 3 months. I can't imagine working so hard on a product for so long, and then just forgetting about it like they do. I'm pretty sure I would have been happier if I didn't have to grind one activity over and over, and had more choice in progression. They created all this content. It's actually a lot if you put it all together. But, it often feels like they don't because they only make you power grind one thing and forget about everything else.

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        • Bungie considers power levelling as “ content”… it saves them from having to create new activities every season.

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        • Simply having powerful and pinnacle drops preferentially go out to less powerful areas would at least alleviate a lot of stress, but Bungie won't do it.

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        • It's just devs way to mask the embarrassing amount of endgame so they make you grind a ton to even get to it.

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        • Power grind is so stupid.

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        • Overtime you’ll realized that everything about this game is meaningless. Hahahahahahaha! There is nothing here. Welcome to hollowness!

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          • Edited by BeerMeYouWill: 2/15/2023 12:42:35 PM
            The game has become scattered meaningless content with nothing in between. We quite literally have been menu selecting content for years now, there is absolutely no organic flow of the game. Finish an activity, go to menu, select another activity, go to helm, select another activity, over and over and over and over. There is no openworld feel to the game anymore,(if there ever was). Feels very hollow with zero immersion. Gets very boring and repetitive real fast now. I still play because I love the game but I don't know how much I got left. Some big changes need to happen.

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          • Really power level is only there to gate keep content.

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            • Edited by The_Redeemer_80: 2/12/2023 7:49:59 PM
              It’s not just the grind that’s meaningless. I’ve lost interest in the story as well. Not to mention the presence of wokeness. I just jump on to run some casual stuff (strikes, pvp) and that’s it now. What this franchise promised and what it has delivered are light years apart.

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            • It [i]is[/i] meaningless and needs to stop.

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              • Edited by Guardian: 2/12/2023 5:55:36 PM
                Agreed. I hope they remove the Pinnacle (+10) cap rises at the very least from Seasons in the near future.

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              • This makes no sense. The powerful cap is really easy to get to and the pinnacle cap is only something you Ned to meet if you’re doing trials or GM nightfalls, the end game content. If you aren’t doing those then you don’t need to worry about power level and the system doesn’t need to be changed to cater to those who don’t need the high level.

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              • May I suggest that one should consider joining the Destiny channels on the Reddit social media platform. You are most likely to get a sensible answer & debate therin. Unfortunately, this being Bungies official forum means that it is utterly plagued with Trolls, Campers, Paid Negs and generally toxic individuals. Even Bungie have abandoned posting polls & feedback requests here.

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                • Yep ! Old old way ! Out dated now. Just open up all the activities 🤷🏼‍♂️

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                • Power grind at the pinnacle level is designed to get you to interact with different activities in different orders. Bungie uses it to push you towards activities. They want you to play some nightfalls with champions and get into the groove of how they work before you take on a GM. Hence the higher light level requirement. Some old raids are lower light level because if it’s not the newest content, odds are you have friends willing to introduce it to you. It also helps Bungie give progression towards specific goals from certain activities (why most pinnacle rewards are from harder content). It exists for a reason. Bungie does benefit off the grind, but it allows for progression. We had a period when level didnt matter and everyone complained about there being no reward for doing harder content like there was in D1. What Bungie should do, is improve bad luck protections for pinnacle drops: allowing them to only drop in slots where you’d see a power increase.

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                  • Has been the past 2 years, same boring season after season

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                  • Yes and no I suppose. For the raid and stuff like that yeah. You're trying to power up to stand on equal footing. For the rest of the game not so much. They should do what they did with the battlegrounds your 5 light level under no matter what for basic content.

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                  • Isn't everything meaningless when you think about it really? and even if we do find some meaning, we've got the eventual heat death of the universe to look forward to.

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                  • An argument for or against the power grind is that it allows you to be on level for higher level content (master content, lost sectors). Besides this reason, I can’t really see there being a reason for it besides locking content

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                    • Always has been ever since the season pass grind began.

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                    • I feel Bungie is going to, eventually, abandon it in favor of difficulty settings it the future.

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