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8/29/2022 4:18:11 AM
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Liar's Handshake is broken (in a bad way)
Hello all! I'm here to inform you all of a terrible bug plaguing the hunter community, but I haven't seen mentioned yet. Liar's Handshake is broken at the moment, and it extends to breaking one of the new arc fragments as well (but only in pvp). The three main key points of Liar's Handshake are as follows:
Cross Counter
Activating Cross Counter through melee'ing
Activating Cross Counter through getting melee'd
However, currently, Cross Counter does not get activated by being melee'd, both in pve and pvp. Furthermore, in pvp, the fragment "Spark of Feedback" (taking melee damage increases your next melee attacks damage, +10 resil) gets broken by Liar's Handshake, changing it from the intended 50% melee damage buff to a measly 15%.
Bungie, for the first time arc hunter seems fun to me in pvp, please fix so that I may abuse the funny one shot melees.
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7 RepliesFor a minute I was sure you were gonna talk about the way we can just punch servitor into the atmopshere with liars handshake.
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1 ReplyMy choice to use Assassin's Cowl instead is vindicated. Still has issues with some melee kills counting as "jolt" kills and not proc'ing the invis or resetting dodge cooldown, but it seems every melee-focused exotic is having that issue.
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10 RepliesEdited by Timbo1527: 8/31/2022 9:15:47 AM[quote]Hello all! I'm here to inform you all of a terrible bug plaguing the hunter community, but I haven't seen mentioned yet. Liar's Handshake is broken at the moment, and it extends to breaking one of the new arc fragments as well (but only in pvp). The three main key points of Liar's Handshake are as follows: Cross Counter Activating Cross Counter through melee'ing Activating Cross Counter through getting melee'd However, currently, Cross Counter does not get activated by being melee'd, both in pve and pvp. Furthermore, in pvp, the fragment "Spark of Feedback" (taking melee damage increases your next melee attacks damage, +10 resil) gets broken by Liar's Handshake, changing it from the intended 50% melee damage buff to a measly 15%. Bungie, for the first time arc hunter seems fun to me in pvp, please fix so that I may abuse the funny one shot melees.[/quote] Good lord, here we go……waaaaaaaa it’s to Op waaaaaaa, nerf.
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Thank you. I just started using this again after getting a decent exotic roll and noticed this almost immediately. Thought I also might just be crazy, so it’s good to see someone else is calling it out.
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10 RepliesYES FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE TALKING ABOUT THIS! My brotha ive been using liars religously for like 4 years and to see it in the state its in pains me SO MUCH! Any platform ive tried expressing my frustration has been met with "skill issue" its just so irritating not even being able to learn the new subclass when liars doesnt work for crap :(
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9 RepliesEdited by Kemaleon: 8/30/2022 9:58:36 AMI made a Liars Handshake build at the start of the season, I was getting the buffs but were hugely underwhelming. I don't need to melt a standard lost sector boss in a couple of hits and it was simply not enough for high-tier champions and not practicle too. It sounds good in numbers to say "600% damage boost!" but you go up to a Master level champion or a raid boss and punch it 6 times with your normal melee, do you know what you get? Dead. Drop Liars Handshake and move on, I did. Arc is for speedrunners and PvP, and even then there are better options for PvP.
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8 RepliesDon't bother, play void and have fun. There's literally 0 fun builds to play as arc hunter now, with Liars being broken What bungie? We're gonna equip Lucky Raspberry?!?! WHAT? We gonna use "improved skip grenades" Omgggg F yessss, no just kidding both those nades suck butt Ohh what Bungie? We're gonna use the arc super exotics? Ooohhh yes baby wake me up with that. HAH SYKE, those exotics are trash aswell Garbage, they could've reworked those exotics but they'll save that bullshit for season 20 at least for when everyones bored from Lightfall "Oh hey guys we're fixing things look at us we're so good"
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bump. superbad broke. I took em off after about 5 min... so much busted this season - we are the ones being plundered! bwahhhha
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Bump.
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They secretly nerfed Liars Hanshake the day after Plunder posted his build with it on YouTube. I copied his build and cannot replicate the damage he can do.
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1 ReplyEdited by Demon_XXVII: 8/29/2022 5:41:46 PM[i]”Did you think we tested these things? We don’t test diddly!”[/i] ~ Bungie
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2 Replies[quote]Furthermore, in pvp, the fragment "Spark of Feedback" (taking melee damage increases your next melee attacks damage, +10 resil) gets broken by Liar's Handshake, changing it from the intended 50% melee damage buff to a measly 15%.[/quote] Sounds intentional. Liar’s Handshake + One-Two Punch nerfs One-Two from the usual +200% melee damage or whatever it is to something like only +80%, so I figured Liar’s + Feedback would cause the Feedback buff to be reduced.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/wyz2z4/liars_handshake_is_not_working_as_it_should/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
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I am getting zero arc wells when using Liars, not just melee wellmaker but armaments and ordnance also refuse to make wells until I take the gauntlets off.
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Yep. Doesn't work as described.
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I’ve ran into a few things with it, I just haven’t been paying attention to it enough because I end up changing it anyways.
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Melee needs to be looked at on all exotics tbh. Skullfort on Titan doesn’t work half of the time and Thunderclap seems to count the powered melee as a jolt kill or something because heavy handed doesn’t seem to work on the odd occasion as well. I’d love to run thunderclap but it’s just not as reliable as shoulder charge to get my melee back.
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There’s quite a few Titan exotics that seem to not proc as well either. Hopefully Bungie looks into it all!
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Yeah, pretty sure that the feedback issue is intentional. Bungie has been trying to keep melee damage bonus stacking builds in check. The not activating off being hit is a shame though. I didn’t notice it when playing my hunter this week, but then again I don’t really use that part on purpose (don’t equip in PvP for example…) and mostly just use it to hunt with combination blow.
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1 ReplyDo they both work properly when used separately? Also, would you happen to know how much the fragment actually boosts your melee damage in PvP?
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Bump. A few people have mentioned this but it hasnt gotten much traction or attention
