I have played around 100 PvP experiences over around 20 years online gaming. Above average stats and teamplay. I am not doing that badly in PvP outside Control solo, but I have no reason to continue except in Survival Freelance mode or Elimination. It is OBVIOUS these maps work on nothing past 4v4. Spawning is atrocious even on 4v4 sometimes. Why the heck there is a 6v6 mode in this game I have no idea let alone without Freelance. The maps are laughably bad on 6v6. The balance is absolutely some of the cheapest and worst balance in any game period. The connection and matchmaking is terrible, laggy, and destroys balance by itself. It's like playing a game from the PS3/360 days where ever budget game had a bad MP mode. The weapons and abilities are just pure spam at this point, and the spawns are worse than any modern COD title I have ever played in 6v6. I would seriously nominate Control 6v6 as the worst PvP game of all time because it is obvious the dev is capable of so much more. Think about this game with 12v12 in some Battlefleld-esque maps! Destiny 2 in itself is an amazing game, and coming from Apex, Battlefield, Halo, Killzone, TLOU, Uncharted, and COD I was expecting something great here. What I got was embarrassing. It's like a completely different developer made this portion of the game, and it has never been touched since. Why not just have a Freelance mode without abilities and also have loadouts to select from to make everything balanced AND larger maps? Why not offer people other ways of playing Crucible than this spamfest garbage we currently have in 6v6, the highlighted mode they have in Control? Why not tinker with things like TTK and put extra modes out there for people that absolutely cannot stand the current thing? Control is the main mode? But there is no Freelance mode? So all new players just get dumped completely by people with OP mods, loadouts, et cetera. FYI I have read up on meta and can use the spammy meta weapons just as well as a normal or above average player. I am not Pro, but there is also no reason to continue. This mode sucks badly. It''s crazy how the creator of Halo made something so absolutely horrible that it boggles my mind. These maps are so lazy and amateurish it makes me think back to a COD game from 10+ years ago, and those games were STILL better. Fact is I could still play these maps if there was a mode that was actually fair for solo players, that actually did not contain all the OP stuff from Destiny 2 PvE. But it seems like even the devs don't care about this mode anymore. Going from some recent searches, I guess I am not alone. It seems like a lot of people think this mode in the game is embarrassing for a AAA developer. Well, it is. I wish it got some love, but I don't think that is on the table anymore. At least Freelance Gambit is a mode that is playable and decent despite some issues as tracking rockets are no longer killing the mode. PvP is unplayable, not fun, and the worst gun game in the last ten years for me personally. Will it ever be fixed or maintained? I don't like Resetera much, but this thread perfectly sums up the horrifying and amatuerish nature of this mode: https://www.resetera.com/threads/destiny-2-has-the-worst-pvp-in-any-aaa-title.471306/