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12/8/2021 8:25:24 PM
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Can we make trace rifles better in pve?

They just feel so lack luster to shoot at anything with a decent health pool. I like trace rifles a lot, but ager's is pretty much the only one that feels legitimately good to use in pve and that's because it has very strong enemy clear. Give them a range between 20-40% more damage please, because as a special ammo weapon I find myself disappointed in their usability.

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  • The new legendary trace rifle with subsistence and golden tricorn is insane for add clearing. Really really strong.

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    • do you have the new legendary one with gold tricorn? The x2 buff is pretty nuts.

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      • I feel like the legendary one we have hits like a dry pool noodle

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      • Some of the others yeah Not ager's though

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      • Also Coldheart needs a buff and Prometheus Lense needs a rework. The former literally only has one perk, and the latter is literally a worse version of the new legendary trace rifle. I’m all for a Trace Rifle buff.

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      • A slight buff, more legendaries and seasonal mod and Ill be happy

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      • Edited by LoITheMan: 12/10/2021 5:48:50 AM
        Agers is already SSS tier so I support a further buff. Elemental Well mods give a near constant 20% damage increase, and with an exotic it already does great damage. That would be really strong.

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        • They are special weapons. Not heavies.

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          • All of them need a 20-30% damage bonus, even if it was largely centered around a critical multiplier increase. Coldheart should have a longer ramp-up but very good dps. Wavesplitter just needs a way to generate its own orbs. Ruinous Effigy needs a longer duration on its debuff and revert some of the changes to its orb. Prometheus’s Heat field needs to be more consistent in damaging enemies behind the target.

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          • Prometheus is pound for pound one of the best damage weapons in the game… Like, if it got buffed, it would be a power weapon

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            • This feedback is no doubt a thing because Trace Rifles lack proper identity. The only two I use are Agers and Div. Div being an obvious support weapon and Agers being a highly synergistic ad clear weapon. What purpose do other Trace Rifles serve? Feels a lot like the Machine Gun situation.

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              • what do you do shoot things with divinity? because all the others completely shred everything they touch. Even the legendary one is crazy strong and melt everything but champions

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                • I think RNJesus heard you and gave me a Frenzy/Feeding Frenzy roll and it shreads in the new Dungeon sweeeeeet !!!!

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                  • Divinity?

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                    • I'd say it depends on the trace rifle, but In general they could use a 15-20% damage buff and then the worst 2 (cold heart and wavesplitter) need some buffs or reworks. Cold heart need vorpal and maybe triple tap for it to be a solid dps weapon. Wavesplitter should get a catalyst called prism. The beam now over penetrates targets and will split targeting up to 2 targets within 30 meters of the main target.

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                      • If you have it, Ruinous Effigy is amazing in PvE It outputs a lot of damage

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                        • [quote]They just feel so lack luster to shoot at anything with a decent health pool. I like trace rifles a lot, but ager's is pretty much the only one that feels legitimately good to use in pve and that's because it has very strong enemy clear. Give them a range between 20-40% more damage please, because as a special ammo weapon I find myself disappointed in their usability.[/quote] You can use them like a primary and they do more damage. Double special builds also drop more heavy.

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                        • Remember launch when we had auto loading ability+exotic combos and coldheart was dps meta. Those where the days!

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                        • Warlock+Agers/MBH = Everything's dies.

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                          • I want to see a trace rifle pve meta. Coldheart is designed around high, single target dps, and that's just about all it can do. It always feels sad to see something that can only do one thing being easily outperformed by other things that can do way more.

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                          • I was kind of thinking the same thing earlier. Trace rifles feel just a bit too weak. To me they don't feel that far off from where they should be. I can't decide if I want to think that maybe their intended "function" is red bar health clear? They feel mostly okay versus red bars, but yeah, yellows (unless it's Agers) and you feel like you've overstayed your welcome lol.

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                          • Ager’s has some amazing ad clear capability when paired with my warlock build. it feels so sick freezing everyone between the gun, my aspect, and stasis turret!

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                          • I honestly haven’t used a trace rifle in PvE in a long time.

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                          • Agers is hella good with the stasis mods on your armour. Check out my Hunter and Warlock for a couple decent builds.

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