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6/27/2021 1:23:17 AM
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Behemoth is embarrassingly bad in both PvE and PvP compared to Revenant and Shadebinder

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    Yeah behemoth is completely useless now in pvp and pve but on the other hand hunter stasis is still broken in pvp and very useful in Pve and Gambit what a surprise 🤦‍♂️

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  • No titans aren't allowed to use other subclasses that aren't missile, bubble, and ursa sentinel :-)

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  • It’s never been good in high end PvE due to the close quarters requirement.

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  • Behemoth is kinda useless now without the speed it used to have

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  • Revenant is worse though. Seeing as revanant is based around slow...and slow does litterally nothing in PvE and lasts like 1/10th of a second as well.... At least behemoth has a great super for damage and can freeze dozens of champions and majors at the same time.

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    • I would go back to behemoth if they just undid the the nerf to shiver strike. That melee has got to be the worst in game now and the whole subclass is lowkey dependent on it

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    • Behemoth is still pretty good, but you definitely can't be the unkillable shotgun ape you used to be. I find the Stasis overshield camping little sissy method works really well with Behemoth now. Unless some Hunter boi comes in and shatterdives your ass... 🤦 That melee nerf is super sad tho.

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    • Behemoth is still decent in pvp but pve it's bad which is the opposite of shadebinder. Shit in pvp and good in pve

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    • I just want the original shiver strike range in PvE.

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    • I used to love behemoth. I was so good with it. It's so slow now.

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      • To be fair it always sucked pve imo even before nerf hammer hit it. It moved fast and threw up a sea of crap that let you lose enemies in it if something was on outskirts and wasn’t great boss damage. It had crowd control, but that’s not really something I’ve ever found desire to use a super for when I can just use a few GL special shots to accomplish similar effects without super use. Imo roaming supers are pvp supers in general. I wish they would make it where all new subclasses had a roaming super option and a one and done super option that could be selected. Most hated aspect of warlock has been its stasis super even though I like rest of subclass. Legit like the rift with vesper of radius more than I do the super. Hunter had personal favorite super of the 3 but it def was not a burst damage super same as others.

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      • It could do with a PvE buff. PvP it was top by far for too long so Bungie won’t be buffing it any time soon.

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      • Edited by HolyRoller1313: 6/27/2021 3:44:10 AM
        So I agree that Behemoth is bad in PvE. It’s alright in PvP, but people love to compare what the average player can do to that of PvP gods and say it’s S-tier, which I just don’t think is true. It should be great for all players. Also Shadebinder is in a pretty bad spot across the board. The only decent thing in PvE that Shadebinder has is its Melee. The super is hot garbo and the Shadebinder has a hard time shattering outside of it without an ability like the Titan slide or Shatterdive, making Glaciers pretty useless for ‘em. Revenants however, are pretty damn great. The super nerf was unneeded, but it still does pretty good things regardless.

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      • PvE, sure. PvP, absolutely not

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