[quote]was daily around 14% but wow just looked at 4% https://warmind.io/activity Edit i know iron banner going on but was higher at beginning of week even with banner up[/quote] 🤣 Hate to tell you but Iron Banner, the most player activity in the game, is crucible.

Not surprising, given the stale state of PvP balancing - from the complete rampant brushfire that is one-shot weapons (Shotguns and Snipers that never get nerfed or vaulted in any manner that actually affects pvp players); the adherance that special ammo weapons need to be "powerful" and "Great" again because everyone was bored with 'double primaries' only because shotgun apes and snipers and other one-shots couldn't effectively exist in that balancing sandbox..... Adored. Jotun. Grenade Launchers. Trials Weapons being Allowed in non-Trials PvP. PvP not having to adhere to light-level power vaulting/restrictions in the majority of cases (IB and Trials, only exceptions). Throw in how easy it is to snapshot snipes because they benefit and gravitate towards headshots and even have the potential to begin with to have snapshot perks, instead of taking actual time and setup to line up the shots (and don't say they do; the number of times I get 'speed snapshot' by Adored or some equivalent mid-fire fight because they ducked a corner, swapped and then popped out is BEYOND stupid). Imbalanced classes - Dodge being too ridiculously useful while at the same time Hunter invisibility being complete trash because it won't completely remove you from radar or at the very least make you 'active camo' invisible; or Barriers and Rifts taking too long to cast in mid-fight and Rifts not being able to keep you healed to survive a fire fight anyway. Limited usefulness of weapon types and exotics; a constant, seasonally-dictated "meta" pool of Bungi-approved weapons that result in a stagnated gameplay....... The list goes on and on about why Crucible has low participation.

Everyone talking about hating stasis and I'm over here wondering wtf they did to you connections since the season started. Nothing but intercontinental matchups and super lag.

Between the cheaters and getting instantly frozen every few seconds I can understand why. Bungie really needs to fix things for the better.

Maybe leave it be for the people who enjoy it? You dont see me crying bungie remove lost sectors because of how boring/repetitive they are.

Tomorrow Raid will be more than 40%

Naah. Iron Banner has just siphoned off a lot of what is the usual player base for Crucible. But this is why this game can't have a bazillion different playlists in Crucible. The player base isn't big enough to tolerate being divided up into so many parts.

Iron banner is crucible, tf you mean? You’re reaching pretty far to try to twist a narrative #nerfstasis

Iron Banner is still PvP, so we can add IB’s 24% to Crucible’s 4%. 28% are playing PvP. That’s not bad, tbh. Crucible might have been higher earlier in the week, but PvP players are most likely playing IB instead of the other PvP game modes.

Not surprised by those figure’s, there low because the majority are fed up with all the shenanigans currently in pvp from stasis to matchmaking to connection to lack of new maps etc etc. Numbers will only continue to dwindle if Bungie makes no effort to change the current state of pvp in this game.

Crayons... 🤤