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Edited by Pharaoh Rising: 4/3/2021 10:01:23 PM
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Eramis is my favorite Destiny “story” villain, hope she returns as a good person someday... Only Dominus Ghaul may beat her... Uldren was cool when he was evil and Pre-Forsaken, now he’s really lame... Crow as a character is really lame IMO.
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  • She will come back but not as a good person. She isn’t actually dead.

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  • <Not really sure she'll be serving the Darkness anymore. Her new God left her for dead.>

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  • Except it didn’t. It [i]saved[/i] her from dying by our hand by encasing her. If she comes back being able to wield Stasis without a shard, which is likely, then it’s a double win.

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  • Well, putting her in stasis for who knows how long isnt what i would say save. Since the darkness can teleport people.

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  • It’s better then being dead because you failed after it gave you the power you wanted... I dunno...maybe I’m weird for thinking that’s considered saving someone. 🤷

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  • Is it? Being dead at least let you rest. Considering the revenant lore, they are conscious while being frozen, so shes alive in there. Unable to move. Looking at the god that "saved" her, but left her there to rot. If i couldnt move a muscle for 3+ months, while being conscious, i would go insane. Wouldnt you?

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  • Depends. It is if you have a chance of surviving. We know it can talk to people. Who knows what’s going on in her head. Ideally for it, it would want her to be able to wield stasis without a shard and that means she needs to get herself together. Her temper is what led to her downfall. Giving her an ultimatum, master yourself and be free or rot? I’d spend a few months in seclusion for that. Oryx went through a similar thing in the early days. Had a bout of weakness, got killed by the sisters, was chastised by the Darkness and then revived. Worked out in the end.

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  • I dont think the dark saved her. The thing wasnt functioning properly, and she lost control. The dark could have saved her, but it didnt. If the dark didnt saved oryx, it sure as hell wont save eramis.

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  • Edited by MC 077 Lasombra: 4/7/2021 8:42:42 PM
    Except it sorta did save him. It just didn’t do it directly. It gave him power but Oryx, Auryx back then before she took the King Morph, didn’t know she would survive death. None of them did. Same principle as Erasmis. The power was given and despite their failure, it was the power that saved them. Oryx was able to survive physical death, at a cost. Granted the situation for the Darkness was more dire, with just escaping Fundament and all. Eramis had it easy by comparison. The Hive gave up a lot, they got more power sure, but the cost was much more then the Fallen paid.

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  • I think we are going to agree to disagree on this point. Minus on one thing: yes, the hive payed a much bigger price than the fallen did for power.

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  • <I don't know if IT did anything. She was already freezing over long before the Splinter was broken. All it took was a good demoralization and breaking said Splinter to send her over the edge and lose control. That's why she froze.>

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  • Then how can you say she will feel like she was left to die if all IT did was give her a splinter and that’s it? She wouldn’t blame it since she was at fault. If Stasis hadn’t encased her, we would of killed her. She survives because of the power IT gave her, even when she failed and was defeated. That’s IT saving her.

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  • <She was at fault, but will she blame herself, or will she blame the God that said one thing and then left her to do whatever? She reached out to IT and it did nothing. Now, she seemingly doesn't understand why that's obvious, but how does that feel to her? Will she emerge from Stasis and go "damn, I -blam!-ed up" or will she go "-blam!- the Dark it abandoned me when I needed it most"?>

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  • What did it say to her? That it would hold her hand or give her power? It gave her power. She failed using it. Yet the power it gave her is what saved her when she failed. That is undeniable. It saved her in the end. Unless it promised to hold her hand, it didn’t abandon her. The Darkness doesn’t save failures and weaklings. We don’t know what’s going on while she is encased. We weren’t brain dead when we got encased. I’m sure she’s spending some time thinking it over, it could even be speaking to her.

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  • I know, wishful thinking you know :)

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