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3/22/2021 6:57:47 AM
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450 pulse rifles
Buff these. They're trash, not just in pvp but also pve....
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Sacred providence proves you wrong, yeah its a raid weapon but it slaps in pvp, I wish I had one. I don’t know about pve though, rapid fire pulses do suck in pve
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8 RepliesCombine 450 Lightweight pulses with 540 pulse rifles and make them 500.
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1 Replyonly outbreak is half decent.
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9 Repliesgimmie back blast furnace.
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I don’t think they’re bad, they have the same ttk as a 140 hand cannon. Maybe a little bit more damage.
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9 RepliesEdited by Kurama: 3/23/2021 10:38:26 AMJust fold 450 lightweights (chattering bone) into 450 aggressive (sacred provenance) which are much better.
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That and the 540 pulse have always been my favorite.
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brrrrrr brrrrr brrrrrr
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I think next season is going to be a season of pulse rifles, they have been out of the meta for too long because theyre range gets trampled on by 120's or scouts and they have inferior ttk's to everything closer range, especially when all the damage is split between 3 bullets needing to hit crit for optimal efficiency, not just 1. Would love to see lightweights get a damage boost, maybe 27-28 per crit, maybe not for a ttk buff but definitely an ease of use buff, or up the fire rate to 480, so not to invade on rapid-fire frames, but to make them a bit deadlier and to hold their own better close range. We need more aggressive frames (4 round bursts). Because having 1 tied to a raid is just rediculous, especially given the rng most people have.
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Yeah I have a nice chattering bone I have been keeping just in case they get buffed.
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8 RepliesEdited by thirstyfish: 3/22/2021 3:28:59 PMYou mean lightweight frame? Because I think the aggressive frame pulses (like blast furnace and the one from the garden raid), also count as 450 rpm. Edit: archetype correction.
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1 ReplyAnd give us a couple more. Don’t really see them around as much anymore...
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You mean lightweight frames, right? If so, I agree. Aggressive burst frame is also 450 rpm with a 0.73 ttk.
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I was thinking make all lightweights into aggressive bursts. The mediocre damage isn't worth 1 extra mobility imo
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Just a slight bump in damage and range and they would be viable, I love 450 pulse rifles (bad juju, outbreak) but yeah they suck in pvp, Im forced to switch to my no time to explain to play comp or go against sweats since the 2 burst is just so much more powerful. Im not saying 450’s should 2 burst, I’m just saying they need a bit more forgiveness to them. Landing all headshots gives 450’s a ttk of about .87 which is not bad but missing just one bullet on a game where flinch is king, its extremely difficult to get that ttk. This is why everyone is running around with 120’s, they basically flinch enemies to oblivion even with a ttk of 1 second.
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I used Infinite Paths a lot last season when pulses were anti-barrier. I thought it was fine. Pulses aren't really my first choice in PVE ever.
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Would love to see low rpm AR's like 450s be good too
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1 ReplyBeen asking for this since...I've actually forgotten how long now but long enough to forget! Probably post forsaken but pre warmind. Nightshade was one of my favorites but at 25 a crit × 450rpm it's plain mathematically out of the contest without a damage boosting perk like kill clip. Sure you can make them work if you're good with them against average opponents. Outside of that diminished window of opportunity they are hard to use effectively.
