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Edited by Ghostrick:
10/15/2020 9:47:33 PM
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Can we just remove Artificial Light in general?
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Seriously, it's getting ridiculous now. Disabled in Iron Banner, Trials, and the Raid race.
Artificial light has been ruining activities since introduction and is a cheap way to introduce harder activities and 'extra level grinding'. Plus the fact you can literally be say, 10 light under an activity yet somehow [i]be at light[/i] for the activity because of it is just stupid. It can render the actual power grind moot, and it also confuses new players as well.
Seriously, I've had MANY clanmates ask why they aren't getting *insert light level* drops from their powerfuls/pinnacles, and every time I have to explain it's because of artificial light, most of the responses is generally 'that's dumb'.
And it is. Artificial light is really stupid.
Keep the Artifact and tie it to seasonal mods, but for the love of god, remove Artificial Light. There's plenty of ways to add difficulty to activities without requiring people to grind bounties for +20 extra light.
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1 ReplyYeah and that same clanmate, who took a break for a season or two, now has to catch up by doing activities that reward powerful and pinnacle engrams. And he only has 1 character. The "artificial light" helps this player by letting them participate in activities much sooner rather than multiple weeks or months.
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artificial light should only start increasing in level after you reach hard cap. so, reach 1060 the old fashioned way, then start boosting XP with the artifact to then be able to complete more difficult activities.
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They won’t remove it because players will then log in and play less. Can’t have that.
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1 ReplyThank you. Been saying this since the moment it was announced. Make gear score actually matter again. And for the love of God, remove pinnacle rewards from casual activities.
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There’s only one activity that requires +15, which is GrandMaster. Nothing requires +20. Level advantages in pvp don’t currently use the artifact because there’s no cap. They mentioned plans to cap out the level you can obtain bonuses in pvp. So you can reach that cap with artifact of gear power. Only disabled in the day one raid because of bounty saving.
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the pinnacle drops don't really have anything to do with the artificial light. It goes based on your base with the highest gear in your inventory, but, like most things in this game, is RNG. For instance, I got to 1059 on all 3 of my characters, and only needed one last armor piece to hit 1060 (before artifact). It took my Hunter a month of grinding to get it (chest piece), my Warlock two weeks after that, and my Titan I just got this past week. Mind you, I play on all 3 characters equally, and I do all the pinnacles except Nightmare Hunts.
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As apposed to organic light?
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Yeah, I’m not sure I really like it all that much. Plus it’s quite unsatisfying losing those boosts each season. Add that to sunsetting (which I’m not against) and nothing feels very permanent which can impede desire to work towards things. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Bungie needs to add more permanent customisation features to stop us feeling like a soulless mannequin wearing the stock as it comes in and out of season - and not just our emblems, something tangible.
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If they improve RNG when it comes to leveling, I’d agree. I made a similar post about this a couple days ago and it was not popular.
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4 RepliesBad for player retention. Without artifact LL, you take away a major reason to keep grinding the season pass, especially once you hit the gear cap. Bright engrams alone aren't going to cut it. So how are you going to even it out? You have to introduce positives along with your negatives.
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1 ReplyI’m not sure what your argument is. Are you asking for light level to be removed from the game? Only artifact light level? Only gear light level? Please clarify.
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YES I've been trying to tell people about how artificial light hurts the endgame It's gotten to the point where the peak endgame requires 15+ artificial levels on top of max level. It's kinda ridiculous
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A million times yes! Bumped for "duh, why wouldn't i" ;)
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Artifact can stay, the bonus light levels should go. Whats the point they take it away for most activities. Hey I'm + 80 light but activity is capped at 1050. Its like having a car that goes 150 mph, but even with the pedal floored it doesn't go over 55.
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Polarising opinions here. I want it gone
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Yes please, it’s BS!
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17 RepliesPinnacle light level should go. It’s an unnecessary grind that triggers many players.
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I actually agree, thinking over the system now it doesn't make much sense.
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No, the artifact light system is good for newer and more casual players. I’d say it’s just abused by the more hardcore, but in reality it’s just people crying that someone who plays the game more than them has more of an advantage and that it’s not fair. It’s essentially people crying that someone else is working harder than them and should have their reward finished simply because that person doesn’t want to do the work themselves.
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I 100% agree
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Terrible suggestion.
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I would love to see pinnacle and Artifact power go. There not point in infinite power from Artifact when there is a +50 power cap that gives a tiny advantage, which is disabled in most pve and pvp content anyway.
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I disagree. Just because you personally see little value in a system doesn't mean it should be removed. You gain nothing for it being removed anyway. Allow people who enjoy the climb to have it and it and leave it be.
