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Edited by vapSHOCK: 6/10/2020 9:36:56 PM
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My opinions about new DLC, Vaulted content and other.

Why Vaulting is a bad thing? Well, answer, atleast for me, consists of some parts. Part 1. Some players payed for the content that is being removed. I understand that its being played less. Its harder to work. It uses space (even though its not that big of a problem on PC, tbh). I understand that. But still. I payed for Osiris and Rasputin campaign in a bundle with Forsaken dlc (yes, i got main game for free, lucky me) while game was still on Battle.net. Worth every bit of money, btw. Can i say same about Shadowkeep? Hmm, not really, not gonna lie, dlc itself is good, not as good as Forsaken, but still, good. The content, i mean, seasons, that come after, no, they are totally not worth it. The whole "you miss, well, go on youtube, watch cutscenes there, then" is actually dumb and im glad its gonna be kinda reworked. Part 2. Uhhm, Bungie? Hello? What about new players, f2p ones? Yeah, this ones. They are getting nothing. They install game and... what? Go in crucible? Strikes? Just without any story or anything? Without any Campaign? What are they gonna do? Because Red War is kind of a tutorial to the game. Base story, before you go to Raids, PVP, other PVE activities, you get to know characters, that are actually well written. I understand that some content will be back, for some time, but you probably wont bring whole story back, cause it takes many destinations at once. They all are behind giant paywall. And you know one thing? If old players leave, and new ones are not coming, because game is basically pay-2-play-2-win, what is going to happen? Yes, game is going to die. And f2ps are paywalled hard. Each campaign you have to buy. And, uh oh, Beyong Light has outrageous pricetag. Almost like whole AAA game, but its a DLC. Who, in sane mind, gonna download free game, play it, find out that to get to new PART of the game you have to pay almost full pricetag of any other AAA title that is actually a FULL game? Even in Russia with Regional Pricings its too much, i got No Man's Sky for less (yes it was a 50% discount, but still). Part 3. The future. Im gonna bet my eye on Bungie removing Forsaken when next major DLC comes in 2021. Similar is already happening, right here, right now. And the backlash is gonna be even bigger with that one, cause everyone who played Forsaken, had to pay. Part 4. The Law. Some say that Vaulting content might be illegal in some countries. Well, tbh, idk, never liked reading lawbooks. Its ok when game was totally free from the start, like one other Space-Ninja simulator, but many of players didnt get all that is being removed for free. Well, i guess thats it. I didnt even touch the whole "unstoppable-barrier-overloaded" enemies stuff, that overly stupid system to make, imho. Oh, and one more thing. Sorrey for my bad england, if it bothers you. With love (and a little bit of hate towards Bungie) your friend from Russia

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  • Edited by Kalcypher: 6/11/2020 8:16:19 PM
    1. I’m sure they have a metric that shows how much foot travel a zone has and if it’s less than X it’s not worth keeping around. 2. They stated that they are going to redesign the new player experience. 3. Same as 1 4. When it comes to live service games you’re not purchasing the game you’re purchasing a ticket to access the game. Same as going to Disneyland/world. Many rides change some even get removed.

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    • Sure. We'll all just sit here and talk about how bad Mars, Mercury, Io, etc are and then when Bungie tries to do something about it we'll complain about that too. F those destinations.

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      • Another thing to add are the exotics that is tied to the original content that Bungie is getting rid of (a.k.a vaulting) , too.

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        • Edited by Swiftlock: 6/11/2020 6:01:59 PM
          World of Warcraft did the exact same thing. They've taken out loads of content to make room for new stuff. It's a natural part of having an ongoing game world. And Bungie never said they were taking things away forever, just putting them in a vault so that the game doesn't become overbloated with outdated content and activities that players hardly touch.

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        • I agree 💯 this is a rip off and slap in the face of the player base. Stop taking stuff away that people payed for it’s compete and utter nonsense. There are no excuses for this none at all.

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          • it's not going away forever. it's getting stuck in the vault so that it can be reworked. and there replacing it with free content like the vault of glass.

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          • I have spent 70 (base game) +35 (season pass) +40 (Forsaken) +35 (annual pass) + 22 (Shadowkeep on promo) for a total of 202€ and half of the content is leaving the game? All my 3 years guns will be sunsetted a day or another? Just in order to free space to content i can do at any moment in D1? If every content we PAID can be retire at any moment with no idea when they will return is acceptable, then there is something wrong with that community and that game.

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            • Thank you for writing my minds down, i can agree to every point, and yes i see Forsake already removed also, i payed for that game more than 200 Euro and losing literally everything what i payed for, even the seasons are not worth it, i mean we knew the content will be gone after a season, but even the amour and weapons are useless in the end because they are getting sunset, so bungie is literally taking everything away what you payed for, what makes me think about if i should ever pay a shit for it or just wait until its free for everyone lol.

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              • Here I feel like I wasted all that money, and time since it has all been for nothing. I hope they don't go through with Vaulting half the game, since just about everything they plan on vaulting is stuff I do every time I play Destiny. RIP X.X

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              • Feel your pain. Bought all of those expansions and the base game when new. Unfortunately the defense of this is that we bought a license that Bungie worded to give them full control of when it expires without needing to infirm us. Might be legal, but that doesen't make it right. Hence, this new model is why season 11 will be my last for awhile. Maybe if the new expansions are free someday I'll give them a shot, but I refuse to pay money for something that Luke Smith can remove whenever he feels like.

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              • You pay for a license to play the content. You never actually pay for the content. The game is the property of Bungie and can be changed at any time, which is stated in the licensing agreement you agree terms with.

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              • [quote]Who, in sane mind, gonna download free game, play it, find out that to get to new PART of the game you have to pay almost full pricetag of any other AAA title that is actually a FULL game?[/quote] Because it’s like 20 bucks for a massive amount of content

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