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3/8/2020 6:27:44 AM
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So you nerf guns for overuse but not classes?

It's something that's always kinda bugged me. We use izanagi and it gets nerfed because people use it too much. Same with HCs, breakneck, queensbreaker, Recluse, etc etc etc I'm not listing all 90 guns. But then, you look at Guardian GG and the top 2 classes in use (in PvP anyway) is nightstalker and gunslinger and it has been that way in overwhelming numbers since December. Before that, arcstrider was top, and before that, gunslinger. Hunters are the most popular class in destiny. They are over-used, hardly ever nerfed in a meaningful way (compared to other classes, which are routinely butchered), and the stats show that people use them just as often as all the weapons you tend to nerf. Why not nerf hunters? According to your logic that overused things need nerfed, hunters are due for a huge one. I'd start with wall hacks and invisibility since hunters are scouts and not spies, but really the sky is the limit. Or you can buff the other 2 class abilities to make them actually functional. Your call, really, but if you're gonna use usage stats as excuses to nerf stuff people like in this game, then hunters should've been cut in half 18 months ago. Now? Welcome to Trials of Wall Hacks. You couldn't pay me money to step foot inside of that dumpster fire.

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  • Use isn’t power. And hardly nerfed meaningfully? Look at Year 1 of this game. Constant fast hunter nerfs that neutered the corresponding piece. Meanwhile titans get slight adjustment to OEM a year later. Warlocks has hand held for same duration.

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  • Use ≠ Power. Using the same logic, Hand Cannons should've been nerfed again. But they don't really overperform outside of maybe Rations and JQK specifically. You have summoned me.

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    • Can we all stop asking to nerf each other into the ground? Seriously. If you think one class is so much better than make one.

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      • Lmao this community is soooooo soft.. Never in all the years of playing PvP games have I ever encountered more people complaining about what other people use .. Its absurd.. hunters crying about titans & warlocks .. Warlocks crying about titans & hunters ... Titans crying about hunters & warlocks.. Grow up

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        • You: Everyone uses hunters nerf them. Bungie: ok Everyone: hello division 2.

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          • Just use a hunter if you think it's that easy. Ffs. You have instant healing on demand and romp rooms in PVE while hunters NEED invisibility to make up for never healing.

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          • Eeeehm. You must be blind. Hunter has been nerfed at least 4x every single season. With a total nerf count that is higher than warlock and titan combined.

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          • Hunters are not OP they are most used because the avg player can more easily relate to them and then starts the game with them. This happens before they have any clue whats good or bad. Brand new players start and pick a character. Vast majority stick with their first choice. They see a warlock in a dress with a corsage. They see a big football player, defensive lineman. They see an avg sized soldier looking guy. Pretty easy to figure out. Top players are not struggling with warlock and titan. They arent struggling on pc either. Go watch some sweats or a tourney and watch the shit guys are pulling off with locks and titans. It would probably change ur mind. Most complaining dont know what their characters are capable of or how to build for it. All this class hate and bias is the debate of 6 year olds. Its tired.

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            • If i had a dollar for every time i was the only non-hunter in a game of comp this week... Dang I’d be able to buy off Microsoft

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              • you guys need to put more energy into getting better at the game instead of complaining. every day it's the same complaints.

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                • Edited by Pr0t0Zer0: 3/12/2020 9:59:46 PM
                  Warlocks literally change ttks.... But nerf hunter jumps and dodges please! /s

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                  • Dodge needs all of it's hidden abilities removed! It should either grant a reload or a 9 second melee cooldown! Nothing else unless it's invis or damage resistance tied to nightstalker or arcstider! Also lightweight weapons and traction shouldn't effect class ability cooldown!

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                    • Are you high... they nerf hunters more than any other class. Also golden gun did get a nerf... they destroyed top tree gunslinger with damage fall off to the point where erentil has a longer ohk range. That’s just the most recent of nerfs and it came out of the blue for no reason or any warning just this season.

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                      • Most nerfs because of use are dumb.

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                      • Agreed 100%. (Cue hunter defenders saying it's only recently they have been on top and those class's are getting nerfed) Oh wait, they are already here in force. 10 seconds class cool down with 4x benefits lol.

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                      • How dare you to be fair towards bungie's pet? Get ready to get downvoted but hunters not able to play without spamming their get out fov jump

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                        • One thing -> cloaks

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                        • Edited by Dante: 3/8/2020 1:40:03 PM
                          they wont nerf hunters cause hunters are balanced and main thing, console problems aint pc problems. also mind of a peasant comparing weapon to a whole class where you have only 3 of them.

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                          • 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

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                          • Edited by Bore: 3/8/2020 11:34:24 PM
                            So nerf warlocks. Over pve and pvp warlocks are the most popular class. They make up more than half of all pve. [spoiler]They nerf based on how well a weapon or class performs. Usage doesn’t equal strength. [/spoiler]

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                            • Hunters aren't popular because they're op. Hunters are popular because they're the rouge/assassin/hunter class and the majority of people like them more than tank and mage classes. Also, hooded/cloaked characters are much more appealing to general audiences

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                              • the only nerf hunter need is dodge cooldown , nothing more, with 100 mobility you can dodge every 15 seconds

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                                • Edited by Swiftlock: 3/8/2020 7:16:57 PM
                                  The funny thing is that none of the new adjustments will shake up PvP much. At all. Max mobility hand cannon Hunters will still be all over the place. AR's will be a TINY bit more forgiving. That's about it.

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                                • Why why whhhhhy Whhhhaaaaaay Waaaaaaaaaaaah

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                                  • Man, it's weird being friends with Hunter mains who routinely complain about how weak Hunter is, then see post after post on the forums about how bloated Hunter is. I'd love to see the dumpster fire of a thread if the two groups ever got into an argument.

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                                    • I know right

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