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And yet I don't see only hunters in high elo gameplay, and I don't hide my stats and games like other people...
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  • Look at the stats, 60% of the top 10% players are hunter mains.

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  • So because they're the most popular choice that equals they are the best choice? I'd like to see where you got those statistics tho. Seems to me like the inability to look up fast enough with a controller is the problem for the majority, as such hunters aren't the problem but the symptoms of the problem.

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  • The higher the players skills are, the more likely they are to be hunters. Really, you should stay away from any data analysis until you learn some basic statistics.

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  • Mhm, must be nice to be wilfully ignorant and purposefully ignore what doesn't suit your narrative...

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  • Kiddie, really, stay away from anything data-related. You're way to incompetent for it.

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  • Careful, your age or lack of is showing... But it was to be expected.

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  • Look, kiddie, once again you"re way too ignorant and dumb to dare to mumble something about data analysis. Go away.

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  • Mhm, that's why you don't post your supposed "60% of top 10%"... Pretender much...

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  • Go to guardian.gg and see for yourself, you slow one.

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  • [quote]Go to guardian.gg and see for yourself, you slow one.[/quote] No, that proves that you are the slow one. Take one month (hell even one year) on console the numbers from the crucible survival playlist. It's as if all you can do or did is look at the pretty lines and ignore the numbers. By popularity and in this order top three: gunslinger, voidwalker and nightstalker are the closest within max 1.5 difference between them and more than doubled usage than all of the rest. NOW, look at the pretty numbers for win rate and KDA because the comparison is important. The difference is nowhere near night and day as the top three in the miss popularity contest. Not even a 0.5 difference. You did pull that 60% of the top 10% out of your ass and if you call someone a kid, you'd better grow up first. All you've proven is that hunters are the most popular class, slow clap. Win rate and KDA disprove your narrative.

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  • That is exactly what that means. In pvp, in any game, the most popular choice will ALWAYS be the most effective and easiest to use. You cannot possibly think most people use hunters just because ‘they look cool.’

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  • [quote]That is exactly what that means. In pvp, in any game, the most popular choice will ALWAYS be the most effective and easiest to use. You cannot possibly think most people use hunters just because ‘they look cool.’[/quote] I do it because my hunter looks cool. And you have it reversed, the most effective and easiest to use is the most popular choice. It's called meta. "Seems to me like the inability to look up fast enough with a controller is the problem for the majority, as such hunters aren't the problem but the symptoms of the problem." There's your problem, there's your reason for the popularity.

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  • [quote]And you have it reversed, the most effective and easiest to use is the most popular choice. It's called meta.[/quote] I literally just said that. I never said hunters were good because they were popular. That makes no sense. I said the best and easiest will always be the most popular. And I can assure you ‘looking up’ is not my problem. Don’t assume to know anything about me. If you don’t understand why hunters are this widely used in the crucible there’s not much of a discussion to be had. I can’t argue with ignorance.

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  • [quote][quote]And you have it reversed, the most effective and easiest to use is the most popular choice. It's called meta.[/quote] I literally just said that. I never said hunters were good because they were popular. That makes no sense. I said the best and easiest will always be the most popular. And I can assure you ‘looking up’ is not my problem. Don’t assume to know anything about me. If you don’t understand why hunters are this widely used in the crucible there’s not much of a discussion to be had. I can’t argue with ignorance.[/quote] Ok, then enlighten me, why are they so popular if it isn't for the jump? What do they have that's so easy or useful compared to the other classes? It seems to me like hunter popularity is a direct result of the inability of most to cope with vertical gameplay. They don't tank more damage, all classes have access to sprint improving exotics, they don't heal faster by default...

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  • Dodge. No other class has the agility that hunters do. Put exotics in there that improve their dodge, and it becomes something I think many could argue is op. They are also the only class to have the ability to have their ability back every 10 seconds. That’s ridiculous. Titans can’t use a barricade every engagement, nor can warlocks. And they can have two dodges with an exotic. There’s simply too much favoring the dodge. They can break aim assist completely, reload their weapon, or heal with worm husk. And don’t get me started when seasonal mods come into play. You CANNOT tell me that hunters don’t have an advantage in almost every engagement.

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  • [quote]Dodge. No other class has the agility that hunters do. Put exotics in there that improve their dodge, and it becomes something I think many could argue is op. They are also the only class to have the ability to have their ability back every 10 seconds. That’s ridiculous. Titans can’t use a barricade every engagement, nor can warlocks. And they can have two dodges with an exotic. There’s simply too much favoring the dodge. They can break aim assist completely, reload their weapon, or heal with worm husk. And don’t get me started when seasonal mods come into play. You CANNOT tell me that hunters don’t have an advantage in almost every engagement.[/quote] You're joking, that's it? All classes can have 10 sec ability cool down if you spec for it. It's a give and take with armor 2.0, one stat goes higher the rest go lower. Not everyone gets chain grenades and carpet bombing nades, not every class gets suppression in both grenade and shoulder charge form. I'd say warlocks are the best bet since 10 recovery is a massive boost alongside an empowering rift. Couple that with sanguine chest piece and you have a stellar load out. But then again people would have to experiment and not choose the meta exotic to figure that out. Double dodge? Try to find the statistics for that exotic, I doubt you'll find anything. Brake aim assist on what, a tracking grenade? That's about it. Wormhusk is a husk of its former self, previous seasonal mods provided more and were more useful last season, they've tone it down with a cooldown reduction if you use battery now. No, I can't say they have an advantage in [u]every[/u] engagement.

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