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Edited by JetEyeKnight: 8/28/2019 10:49:08 PM
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I'm soooo sick of Dust Rock Blues+Not Forgotten+Wardcliff Coil loadouts.

Can we please mix things up? People complain about Erentil all day but fail to see the true problems in this game. Every time I look at a sweaty player's loadout. DRB + WC + NF. EVERY...SINGLE....TIME. I'm not asking for nerfs, I'm begging the community to try something new. I wanna puke every time I see 20K kills on a NF or 10K kills on a DRB. The heavy weapon meta needs to change. Nothing but free team wipe wardcliff coil. Edit: playing on console. I realize not a problem on pc Edit 2: This is not about my ability to play the game. I already have ways to counter the meta loadouts. I get hate mail after every game. It's a good feeling knowing how to counter it. My point is the crucible is getting stale. We have a giant sandbox and yet people only want to play in one tiny corner of it. There are other viable options. The crucible should be overflowing with variety. Hopefully shadowkeep can incentivize players to try new loadouts. Edit 3: I'm enjoying this ratio. Thank you all for participating in this conversation.

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  • Never see those on PC, only Recluse

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  • That's the reason I say shotguns need to be put back in the heavy slot so you have to chose shotgun or rocket launcher never have both. When the Destiny 1 weapon system came back I knew it would be this way. As you said it not about player ability. It's about people not playing with different weapon. It takes more skill to use none meta weapons.

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    • This post is sad. Lol. People can use whatever the hell they want.

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    • I agree but there are multiple weapon archetypes that sadly are nothing short of garbage so the overall weapon choices aren’t as abundant as many would prefer. I don’t run the meta you mention and yesterday my KD took a beating in IB running Nameless Midnight and Breakneck for the quest. Screw power creep and those that have issue with it. I want everything to have 0.87TTK in its optimal range and damage drop-off to be more noticeable when outside these ranges. I want grenades to 1HK. I want buffs to most of the supers across all classes. I’d like to see how the game is played after these things happen. I’d wager most would say it’s more fun.

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    • Crucible is stale and repetitive by nature. Same old maps and game types. But I don't mind, I've been playing PvP since Golden eye. At least with destiny we can choose our load outs than have curated load outs for no variety in guns or armor.

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    • I once joined a game where each of them were running this loadout along with arcstriders and spectral.

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    • Edited by Bositiv3 (Adept): 8/28/2019 7:51:30 PM
      hay just fyi thats just one load out i use, Dusk rock , Lunas/NF/trust, and a warcliff-turth. i have many more like one eyed mask with juton...but hay as much as people complain and I completely understand people just stick with just 1 loadout … this wouldn't have gone this far if people wanted to complain about AR's then sidearms and then SMG's and Bolt Rifles, then specific Grenade Launchers, to subclass changes, .. if your gonna sit there and just have a long wide open stare like a cat experiencing a few hours of cat nip just get over yourself and get with the meta... .. just quit telling bungie what to do and start asking for other buffs not nerfs..people like this already destroyed NF when it was hard enough to even get it. 4 Years on Bungie.net Joined on Oct 01, 2014 I know bc every time something gets good it gets taken away .. as a veteran please... dpnt ask for nerfs or changes until the new season of the undying comes out.

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      • The problem is wardcliff. Nothing comes close to it’s stopping power. There is no reason it should have 2 shots. Everything else falls in place. Although I recently received from RNGesus a god roll spare rations. Better range falloff than NF (thanks weirdly long gun barrel), and since it has moving target, I can oustrafe everyone with the lightweight frame. Only disadvantage is I need three HS, instead of HS body.

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        • They need to reduce the bloom and recoil on other handcannon archetypes and weapon types so there's more variety. Sidearms and SMGs need a bit more stability and range, and autorifles need a bit more body or base damage. All the non-180 handcannons need less recoil and bloom, and a more vertical recoil animation like in D1. The only ones that should have a high recoil are the Aggressive-Frame handcannons.

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        • [quote]Can we please mix things up? People complain about Erentil all day but fail to see the true problems in this game. Every time I look at a sweaty player's loadout. DRB + WC + NF. EVERY...SINGLE....TIME. I'm not asking for nerfs, I'm begging the community to try something new. I wanna puke every time I see 20K kills on a NF or 10K kills on a DRB. The heavy weapon meta needs to change. Nothing but free team wipe wardcliff coil. Edit: playing on console. I realize not a problem on pc Edit 2: This is not about my ability to play the game. I already have ways to counter the meta loadouts. I get hate mail after every game. It's a good feeling knowing how to counter it. My point is the crucible is getting stale. We have a giant sandbox and yet people only want to play in one tiny corner of it. There are other viable options. The crucible should be overflowing with variety. Hopefully shadowkeep can incentivize players to try new loadouts.[/quote] Your entire argument assumes bloom doesnt exist on console, do you not understand why PC has a much broader choice of meta weapons for high level play as opposed to console? Non 180 Hand cannons are practically unusable on console due to bloom

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          • My sweat loadout is malphesance wizard rebuke and sins of the past. It’s what works for me not much of a shotgunning ape.

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          • Just wondering what are your loadouts

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            • Why jump around and use mediocre load outs all in the name of diversity when you can just use what works?

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              • Are you somehow stuck in Season 4 with no way out? Maybe check the date/time on your XBOX...

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              • I said it once and I'll say it again NF and Luna (and 180s) should not have been created.

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                • I don’t care what anyone uses. Would be nice if they remove bloom so players can vary more.

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                  • Perhaps because those who use it find it easiest play style. I typically do t run these meta nonsense as there are many good guns. Simply put a streamer uses it then the odds go up in its wide use. Every gun type has an opposite. Some are working outside its weapon class type.

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                  • NF is not meta, tbats just inaccurate. shotguns and fusions are meta but the majority of people don't want that fixed cause they crutch them too hard

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                  • This is why when I do play crucible, I often use anti-meta loadouts like Jotunn and Lion Rampants.

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                    • "People complain about erentil all day but fail to see the true problem".... Is that because you yourself use erentil, and therefore dont see why it's a problem? Of course that's the reason. It's only an issue when it's not something you yourself play with. Basically this entire post is nothing more than "everyone should play the game the way I want them to play". That's never going to happen, and common sense would tell you that, so I'm not exactly sure what you set out to accomplish with this nonsense. Furthermore, everyone is going to play with the easiest and most efficient weapons, and why wouldn't they? The goal is to win, not cater to complainers telling them they have no skill for using wardcliff. You really think I give a shit what you or anyone else thinks of my Destiny 2 playstyle? Do you think I care one bit if you say I have no skill and I use noob/crutch weapons? Here's a hint, I dont. Instead of trying to laughably convince people to use other weapons, the one you should be pleading to is Bungie. They are the one people who have the power to change the sandbox and control what's good and what sucks. And until we see some major buffs and nerfs, the meta will continue to be what it is.

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                      • I understand i also feel pvp has become boring. I do not believe its players fault. Hell i get that even if i try to play something else of a loadout for a change and get my ass kicked in the end it wont be fun. Sadly bungie pvp team has not being able to deliver a good experience. Nothing personal agaisnt them but thats the truth. And its not only a thing about loadouts, the map design and size has also being a problem since D2 disastrous launch. For example hunters are so jumpy and with current map design there is a clear advantage when using shotguns paired with sliding perks and such. That kind of thing leads players to going for the meta which makes crucible boring in that sense. I do like crucible state decent i can enjoy it. But after a certain ammount of matches it all feels the same.

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                      • I don't play PvP often, and I'm average to below average, but my experience has been getting wrecked by super after super after super. I love supers (SUPER FUN) but it feels like there just too many of them. I honestly don't know the right answer here because Y1 almost felt like Halo because there were so few supers (SUPER SNORE). Capping the number of supers players get doesn't seem like the right answer either, unless capping supers was part of a new game type. I think we all just have to endure each of these metas and decide how best to play through them or not.

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                      • Well then tell everyone to remove Ace/Spare rations/Mind bender/Truth/140 rpm snipers/TLW/Chaperone. Not Forgotten is way hard to get so if someone gets it they should be able to use it especially now after that nerf.

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                        • Stop being a socialist

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                        • Bring back special ammo crates from D1 so at least it's easier to prevent the other team from having an endless supply of special by being able battle them for the crate locations. At least, being a solo player as I am , I wont have to worry about having potato teammates that keep supplying the other team with special ammo by dying like crazy and I can at least fight off the crate locations by myself. The crate idea also is more fair to snipers ( the most skilled special weapons) cause they won't have to chase down special ammo from far away kills. It's way too easy right now for shitgunners and fusions. I'm a fusion user myself and I can go entire matches without barely ever needing to pull out a primary cause there's really no point to when I constantly have ammo for my 1-shot kill, good enough range special weapon

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