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Edited by RoyalPhisting:
7/24/2019 4:05:21 AM
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Real Problem with Crucible
I can play a game of QP or comp and be absolutely dominant. But, the very next game I’m getting stomped by some players who are clearly in another league.
Consistency is really what is needed. If I really suck and I’m at the bottom of the leaderboard I can accept that. But the extremes of either top or bottom is what drives me nuts.
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2 RepliesAbsolutely true. This way there is no learning curve on getting better.
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[quote]I can play a game of QP or comp and be absolutely dominant. But, the very next game I’m getting stomped by some players who are clearly in another league. Consistency is really what is needed. If I really suck and I’m at the bottom of the leaderboard I can accept that. But the extremes of either top or bottom is what drives me nuts.[/quote] Its rigged!
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3 Repliesthat's because bungie has yet to figure out that the matchmaking system needs to be based on lifetime kill to death ratio as they don't use that the whole system screwed
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16 RepliesIf you want to blame anyone about the current state of QP it is Youtube content creators. Destiny 2 QP actually had sbmm in year one and all the content creators complained about how QP was no fun. Bungie took out sbmm and the content creators promptly started posting 50 kill videos and thought QP was great. At least they are happy.
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-blam!- the crucible
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5 RepliesWhat blows my mind, is when it's a full 6v6, and I end the match with like 7 kills but a great k/d because I ran around the map, and somehow always managed to end up away from all the firefights. Despite alway trying to stay with a teammate.
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1 ReplyPeer-to-peer.
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I don't know what in the blue hell they've done to matchmaking or the game in general, but quickplay is 10x sweatier than comp, beyond the laggiest of lag, every Iron banner match I play ends in getting Mercy ruled in like 20 seconds.... But Comp is chill and feels casual like quickplay even at Fabled... See.. ya patch the menagerie chest and break half the game. Should've just left it alone. What. The. Actual. -blam!-.
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Edited by BaconCola: 7/24/2019 8:24:37 AMFirst of all Kudos for the name :-D I agree with you, i used to be the worst crucible player in the galaxy, recently i played a lot for Recluse and became an average player and still have so much to learn. When I have an awesome game for a low skilled player like me with 30 kills and a KDA of 2.5-3.0 that's reason to pop a bottle of champagne and feel like the king of everything ;) I carried the team for once, i won the match for once and my ELO rating is bronze because I died too many times. (I guess that's the reason for the bad rating) If someone dies only twice and gets 8 kills he gets a better rating. That's like Brannon becoming King all over again. In the end of the day it would be possible that you run against 6 players with low ratings but good kill score. I could be wrong :)
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Edited by mayo68: 7/25/2019 10:59:21 AMConsistency is exactly what you have bubs, it's referred to as inconsistent consistency...aka 50/50 win/lose algorithm. I refer to it as the dumbest programming in the history of video gaming!
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QP is CBMM with an asterisk. While it’s connection based, it is also set up to try to give everyone a 50% win ratio.
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The fact that the crucible [i]exists[/i] is a problem.
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Absolutely agree. I mean, I know I'm bad. My k/d is 0.3, efficiency if frequently is below 0.5. Usually reside at the bottom of a summary chart. BUT(T)! Somehow, sometimes my team manages to win by Mercy, and I became best player! Honestly, if I'm abysmal shit - who are those poor people we just won over? How can I have efficiency higher than 5? I can't hit anything (because I can't see anything, but that's not the point). How such matchmaking is even remotely fair? What those poor folks we just win over feel when they are matched against those who inflicted Mercy at us with score like 107/8 under a minute?
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1 ReplyCan someone tell me how does comp match players is it by average rank in a group or it matches the group according to the highest rank in the fireteam?
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The real problem with crucible is that it exists
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2 Replies[quote]But the extremes of either top or bottom is what drives me nuts[/quote]. I read into this the wrong way.
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2 RepliesThe matchmaking sucks for everyone. Bad players get put in lobbies with really good players, and good players like me suffer from lobby balancing, so if there is another good player or group of good players they will almost certainly get placed on the other team, leading to me sweating my balls off just to go positive.
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QP CBMM so yeah that'll happen Comp Glory based MM so if you go against a team it will take their average glory so can still happen there too
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Edited by Sneaky The 1st: 7/24/2019 5:16:39 PMThere is nothing to do with the matchmaking or skill. It is absolutely RNG. Your shot miss lot, you can’t aim properly, coil will find you across the map, when use coil it will miss everyone in front of you that mean your RNG is bad.
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The real problem is the constant lag issues, i’m on a fibre optic connection and can end up playing for hours without getting a single game that doesn’t have at least one enemy that doesn’t take damage properly due to P2P connections.
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18 RepliesEdited by lCertifiedl: 7/24/2019 11:48:29 AMThe real problem is your playing PvP in a PvE looter shooter, the 2 just don't mix well.
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Comp can make me want to have a heart attack and die.
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I agree, i can not stand inconsistencies.
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I can play a game of quickplay and suck badly I can play a game of comp and suck badly I can play iron banner and suck badly I really don’t see the problem here.... Oh wait.. It’s me isn’t it ? Dammit!
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Shitty algorithms and shitty servers on Bungie's part. They don't deserve our money.
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I don’t think it’s that it’s something else. I’ve had games where everything is working properly and players are taking proper damage and when I get killed it’s clean. Then next game against the same exact team and “boom” all of a sudden it’s like my gun is doing almost no damage, my super is not killing, I’m dying when I only feel 1 or 2 hits. I just quit out of a game right now because three burst headshots from my Bygones wasn’t even taking the shields off this player. Whatever their doing or if it’s a p2p deal I don’t know but it sucks. For a game that players use k/d to pick teams is so bs. I can’t get mine over 1.0 and I consistently stomp players with 1.0 all the way to over 2.0 and get my ass kicked sometimes by players that have a .5 k/d shows how accurate that system is.
