People.
Don't.
Want.
To.
[b]Use.[/b]
[i]Cores.[/i]
[b]IN.
INFUSION.[/b]
Quit trying to advertise Vance, if you have to in order to get people to, then the system has already failed to be compelling enough to be considered worth doing.
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Youre the type of person who expects handouts
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Edited by TJ_Dot: 4/24/2019 8:27:25 PMNo, I'm not. This discussion isn't about handouts. If someone already earned the gear they want to use, they should be able to use it and keep it relevant with relative ease. [spoiler]Because they already worked for it[/spoiler] Not suggesting free raid loot for being in a clan level of handouts
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You can use the gear what's stopping you from using the gear? My skull of ahamkara is lvl 600 I use it and my lock is at 700 when I decide to use that cancerous super spectral I use my 688 gwisin vest.. When I want to run striker on my titan I use my 648 skullfort or when I'm in the scourge I use my 650 synthoceps .. Nothing is stopping me from using any gear .. Some people play at a higher level than others I dont need to have maxed out gear to play better
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Player perception of progression is the useless number, yeah we know it barely means crap, but we would still like maxed gear, it's a sign of completion. You pointing this out actually makes cores even more redundant. If you don't need stuff max, then why are we stalling people?
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I just don't see where people are being stalled .. It seems that the ways to get cores just aren't fun to do lile maybe had 5 cores for the weekly stuff each week and add maybe 1-3 cores for any dailies on top of the other shit in place instead of 1 core for those bounties make them 3 from spider the scrappers drop make them 1-3 cores when completed .. Reduce the amount of 15 cores to 10 cores .. Make spiders core purchase a static 10 shards per core and have a daily limit of 5 cores per character so that's 15 a day.. Instead of doubling the purchase bankrupting people of shards theres ways to improve instead of having them removed
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My vault is basically full. To max infuse once a season costs +800 cores. No way am I doing that. Old stuff collects more dust as I'm less driven to think about it, let alone bump it up to the new cap.
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What game are you playing? The way this game is set up and made there is absolutely no valid reason to need to infuse 500+ items considering armor sets dont bring anything special and perks arent game changing to the point were a select few have some benefits. Weapons for the most part share the same archetype with slightly different stats. Hardly any game changing reason to need both crimils dagger and the duke at max light for example. At that point needing that many cores and gear when realistically multiple sets dont change the flow of gameplay is just putting more strain and need for cores when there really isnt the need for multiple sets. Especially multiple sets at max light when only select activities even need max light. You can say you want multiple sets and gear sure thats you, but bungie really doesnt need to change the system to fit the need of those who realistically dont need the amount of gear the claim they want to infuse.
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Edited by TJ_Dot: 4/25/2019 1:18:43 AMI'm playing Destiny 2, like you. Sure the archetypes lack reason between, but I'm a guy of aesthetic, I also have set loadout rules (for my interests, and head cannon with lore) Duke and Crimil's dagger both have a purpose to me, both to my Hunter. Crimil's fits my Y1 IB set with Dragon's Shadow and Fighting Lion. Duke, novelty aside for being the first handcannon ever, is an all-round option Point being, IB guns for the IB sets. I aim to fit a theme these days. Black Armory guns with the armor sets, exotics too. It makes the loadout more complete from an aesthetic standpoint, You can't say Bungie doesn't need to change the system to when they started it to begin with, people just want the crap undone. Nothing is wrong about players wanting to utilize more things in the game, we shouldn't be holding them back, there's no reason to and nothing to gain by doing so. People want to appreciate everything? let them.
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Edited by Combo164: 4/25/2019 1:45:45 AMAlso if you're trying to infuse a vault full of items, cores should be the least of your worries. Going off of a [url=https://youtu.be/rzIziQitKXw]video[/url] as I'm not home for the numbers myself, You would need 4 million+ glimmer 5000 + shards 1000 cores And 12,500+ materials for a vault worth of infusion. I have the + because of the fact that you can use mats to buy mats as well as the items on your character you need to infuse. Thats a lot of grinding to do and i find it odd to have an issue with cores at that rate, as they're supposedly adding too much grind. Chances are if your grinding for those mats, your getting cores along the way.
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Given everything else but cores, how is that not enough? I'm fine with all of that, but cores.
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Edited by Combo164: 4/25/2019 2:14:38 AMThe problem is you're doing a ton of grinding either way. You're grinding for the gear for infusion which is 500+ items if trying to get everything at max light. Grinding for glimmer Grinding for shards Grinding for mats. There's no way you're exclusively grinding for cores without getting other mats and vice versa. Example running raids for curated rolls for cores is feeding towards you glimmer and shards you need. So when people say "i dont want to grind for infusion", its extremely contradicting. You're grinding the game already for the thousands of mats i listed and you're definitely earning cores along the way from curated rolls, bounties, rank ups and cores from standard legendary scraps as well as matterweaves. Theres also the fact that you'll need tons more resources if pulling from collections to at least have everything at 680 or so
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Edited by TJ_Dot: 4/25/2019 3:13:38 AMI don't have the ability to raid the max amount of times every week, not everyone does. It is completely insensible to suggest raids for cores exclusively for infusion. Pinnacle PvE for basic investment in gear? It isn't "I don't wanna grind" It's " I don't want to waste cores in infusion, so can they get out of it"
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Edited by Combo164: 4/25/2019 4:04:58 AM[quote]I don't have the ability to raid the max amount of times every week, not everyone does.[/quote] Raiding isnt the only place that drops curated rolls. Nightfalls, reckoning and possibly gambit as well. Plus cores drop from randoms scraps from legendaries and theres also matterweaves. Theres also the coming gunsmith bounties as well as the cores from hawthorne and buy one or two from spider. [quote]It is completely insensible to suggest raids for cores exclusively for infusion.[/quote] raiding was only a example. [quote]It isn't "I don't wanna grind" It's " I don't want to waste cores in infusion, so can they get out of it"[/quote] Thats not what im seeing, alot of people are saying they dont want cores for infusions because "it increases grind". Cost is too much for new players Which again is odd because of the amount of materials for just 1 infusion. Even more odd I'm suprised people are up in arms with reducing core cost on masterworking which is 19 for just one weapon. Should be 10.
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[quote]Nothing is wrong about players wanting to utilize more things in the game, we shouldn't be holding them back, there's no reason to and nothing to gain by doing so. People want to appreciate everything? let them.[/quote] No, there isnt anything wrong with people wanting to use what they want. However if they want to use and infuse hundreds of items then its their job to put in the time to gather the supplies to fit their excessive playstyle.
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That time and effort is getting the gear itself. Needing more of the basic currencies involved is a natural part of the course as well. Cores aren't natural to infusion.
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Like i said I'm all for costs being dropped it definitely is way too much and I have nearly 200 cores I'm saving up for season 7 which is dropping a new raid and of course another level increase I try to use only reverie dawn gear or raid gear since they drop all the enhanced and greatly enhanced targeting loading etc my biggest thing on why I haven't masterworked any gear is getting the rolls tailored to the weapons I use and my play style along with needing the proper singe resistance .. I wish they never took out the mods to change the elemental damage on guns or resistance on gear .. I have all the weapons worth masterworking any player could possibly want to use
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Tough shit I dont care that I have to use cores I don't feel we should just be allowed to infuse thing without there being a process stop being a crybaby there are more people who feel like I do .. You crybabies flood the forims
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Oh, so all players should be pointlessly [b]hindered[/b] because you're fine with it. This is why you have no ground. Your acceptance for a [b]negative[/b] reality doesn't define everyone else's experience.
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People hinder themselves .. Ive stated how to get more cores yet you cant seem to wrap your simple head around it
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I have, I know to get cores, you can't seem to wrap your head around that, you lull yourself into thinking you're in some sort of position of self exceptionalist belief that you need to [i]teach me[/i] and get frustrated that I'm still disagreeing with you because it's beyond your scope of understanding. People don't hinder themselves when the system was actively changed to hinder them. You keep blaming the people, and you will keep doing so even beyond rationality, even when everyone is gone. That is your folly.
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Ive never felt hindered even when I took a break for 6 months or so from the game .. Were never going to agree we have different views of things I feel there are bigger issues in the game and that enhancement cores are at the very bottom of that list .. Enjoy the rest of your day brother god bless