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Edited by Hive:
4/18/2019 5:11:22 PM
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State of Reveler’s Tonic in PvP.
I want to preface this by saying that I absolutely love this game and have been playing it since Dark Below D1. Thank you Bungie, for everything :)
[b]EDIT: Cozmo just recently posted on Reddit regarding the Reveler’s Tonic issue. There he stated that, “We don’t have the ability to immediately remove Tonics in Competitive via our servers. We’ll continue to investigate possible changes but this experiment will have to run the duration of the Revelry before we can patch a change.” This is extremely unfortunate to hear, but I appreciate the openness Bungie! Thank you for acknowledging that this is an issue. I hope that some form of change can be implemented during the event, but if not I understand. [i]Pulls Shinobu’s Vow from collections and instantly equips them[/i] Here we go.[/b]
For anyone who wants to read the full Reddit post:
[url=https://reddit.com/r/destinythegame/comments/be8cxq/revelry_in_cruciblecompetitive/el5ny1j]Here it is[/url]
[TLDR]: Reveler’s Tonic buff is way too strong for the competitive playlist(Shinobu’s Vow skip grenade spam), and should be removed from the playlist altogether. Also, glory score floors would be greatly appreciated.
The reason for this post is simply to hopefully get some feedback from [i]anyone[/i] from Bungie on this issue. I don’t want this to come off as complainy or whatnot, so here it goes.
I’m currently in the meat of the grind for Not Forgotten(3512 currently), and would love to go into the competitive playlist to continue this grind. But, to be completely honest, I’m terrified to. It has taken me a while to get to this point, and I feel like as soon as I step foot in the playlist, I’m just going to drop. This is simply due to the Reveler’s Tonic’s buff to grenade recharge rate. I have noticed several posts and talked to several friends who have played and they all say the same thing, “[b]Do not play competitive, it’s all skip grenades[/b].” This has put me in a tough spot because I do not want to play against 4 stacks of hunters all with Shinobu’s Vows and skip grenades, but I also want to continue grinding, as well as get my 80 weekly point bonus from playing games. On top of this though, this event runs for [b]3 weeks[/b]. This means if someone , like me, were to want to wait until the grenade spam ends, they would have to wait for 3 whole weeks. There’s a simple solution to this(and I’m sure you’ve seen this a million times), but it is to simply remove the Reveler’s Tonic buff from competitive. I have no problem with it being in quickplay, but it has no place in competitive in my opinion(and many others). If you read this far, thank you for taking the time! I simply wanted to post something that didn’t come off as an order or as a poorly worded complaint. Have a nice day!
P.S.: Completely unrelated note, but maybe think of glory score floors as you rank up? Would help make loss streaks feel less punishing and cruel. :)
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Of course do they not have the ability. Bungie is a piece of trash. Who the hell thought about that crap in comp playlist? They give a -blam!- of the pvp community. Make the game more casual friendly. Jesus Christ bungie im out. Your game was good but you manage it to screw it again and again and again.
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2 RepliesJesus why can’t anyone just fave fun with the grenade spam. It’s negating all the Luna’s/No Forgotten addicts very nicely.
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1 ReplyOh no! The PvP crowd has a particular modifier they don't like. Sounds like what happens to the PvE crowd every week. Lmfao
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Seems fishy, they can turn off orb generation in gambit, gambit prime and raids real quick but not tonics 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
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17 RepliesI don't see what's wrong here. Pvp community has been yelling for months "just git gud and adapt" to shotguns and luna's Why can't they take their own advice?
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Why wouldn’t Cozmo post that message here, where, you know, the actual forum is. Probably because of all the hate. I called him a jackass today
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Sunsinger?
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1 ReplyComp is literally unplayable
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5 RepliesThe main argument I see for this failure is “you can use it too”. Like yeah, I can, and I will, but is that fun? Not to me. I want actual gunfights. I like the break from shotguns but it’s not much better having someone run hollowfire and throw thermites every 4 seconds. Or lightning grenades at every wall. It’s not a big deal to me because I’m still getting 30-50 kills per QP Match, but it’s still annoying to have people run around and maining their grenade. It’s gotten to the point where a hunter will just stare at me, not even shoot me, and just spam grenades, so I can get an easy 3 tap because he’s so grenade happy. Which gives me orbs from headshots then I get storm trance easily then just leaves me to mop up the grenade spam. There’s so few good players in QP Right now because it’s so frustrating trying to have a gunfight just to have some bot spam grenades in a choke so you can’t even push them. So yeah, I CAN do this, but is this FUN? Not at all. There’s no skill in throwing grenades, and it’s not fun having to shoot each individual lightning grenade just so I can fight my opponent. If anyone disagrees I’d love to know why, I’m trying to figure out why this is so fun to some people.
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Everyone complaining about skip spam even though that is the least of the nade problems. Instakill lightning nades and young ahamkara's tripmines are way more dangerous.
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3 Replies[quote][b]EDIT: Cozmo just recently posted on Reddit regarding the Reveler’s Tonic issue. There he stated that, “We don’t have the ability to immediately remove Tonics in Competitive via our servers. We’ll continue to investigate possible changes but this experiment will have to run the duration of the Revelry before we can patch a change.” [/quote] They're so full of shit. They can fix the enhancement core bug within hours, but can't patch the reveler's tonic out of PvP in a timely manner? Ya, i don't believe that for a second.
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2 RepliesWell I'm at 2800 so imma get my recluse no matter what, I'm hoping I lose soon or something. Enjoying the spam I only use when I end up getting hit by it but my thing is if some is outplaying you without the buff it's going to be worst with it dont need Luna/NF if you do that's a learn a new gun situation (la monarch/antiope)..... That's all I'm saying.... I'm serious....those are weapons of the gods they smack anyone..... Does the recluse triumph still go through if I lose fabled (probably wont) after getting my 100% wins?
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17 RepliesI got a new set of Shinobu's Vow and almost immediately infused them into one of my legendary gloves. Until I decided to give them a shot in a strike. HORY SHEET!! That combo was stupid fun!! I couldn't throw my grenades fast enough and I literally competed a whole strike with nothing but grenades! Going to try to solo a NF with this set up, with grenadier and arc singe modifiers, tonight. Thanks for the screw up Bungie! Like the Promethius Lens fiasco, this Revelry of Grenades is a blast!! I am so happy the Comp PvP community is salty AF now that their crutches can't carry them through or that they can't farm QP for now. LMFAO!!!!
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5 RepliesEdited by TheCyo: 4/19/2019 12:27:02 AMI wanted to go to 2100 this week to get Luna and Recluse. Well, it has to wait 3 weeks I guess. As a Level 20 Character I have no access to Shinobu and even with good gun skill you can not beat the 4 stack pve team just spamming grenades.
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2 RepliesThink of it like this. If YOU run four skip grenade throwing hunters, surely getting to legend should be easy right? If everyone in the game uses this strategy then technically it’s a ‘fair’ fight. If they still beat you, who’s to say they wouldn’t beat you pre revelry?
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1 ReplyBut the event is disable in private match. ahahaahha ahahahaah ahaahahahahaa
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4 RepliesRemember the double skip grenade spam that hunters abused in Crimson Doubles? Now imagine that in Competitive. What a nightmare!!!
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Edited by W33DEDPLAGUE: 4/18/2019 8:32:01 PMPeople justhat can't stand any changes in this game, even if it's only for a couple weeks...sounds about right.
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5 Repliesi dont care about how "tonics ruin pvp" ive been having a blast in comp rather then the usual hell it is, ive never been so surprised on how fun it is now and i have been on a winning streak
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Bungie wrecked the integrity of the crucible for 3 weeks out of the season with no ability to reverse it.
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6 RepliesI think there is something that is being overlooked about the tonics and competitive and that’s that the playlist is so sweaty due to the pinnacle weapon chases that Bungie cannot try new things because it only causes frustration. It’s not the tonics that are the core issue but the pinnacle weapons requirements that cause the headache. The Fabled (and Legend) restrictions neuter any attempts by Bungie to experiment in the playlist. This is the bigger issue because this only promotes stagnation and stifles creativity.
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2 RepliesEdited by draycole: 4/18/2019 7:40:44 AMIdk it's kinda fun But of course leave it up to hunters to mess it up Way of the wraith in regular crucible. Blade barrage in mayhem Now skip grenade with the buff.
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They can't do anything about it until it's over so you'll just have to learn to embrace the fun.
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Edited by JediCardTricks: 4/18/2019 4:45:23 PMI think the bottom line is, everybody can do this. You just need to play the game normally and you'll get enough essence for the tonic. It's not like you have to raid or even do a NF to get essence. You get essence from pretty much every activity in the game. So, drink up and spam your nades. Oh and try to have fun.
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5 Replies[quote]I want to preface this by saying that I absolutely love this game and have been playing it since Dark Below D1. Thank you Bungie, for everything :) [TLDR]: Reveler’s Tonic buff is way too strong for the competitive playlist(Shinobu’s Vow skip grenade spam), and should be removed from the playlist altogether. Also, glory score floors would be greatly appreciated. The reason for this post is simply to hopefully get some feedback from [i]anyone[/i] from Bungie on this issue. I don’t want this to come off as complainy or whatnot, so here it goes. I’m currently in the meat of the grind for Not Forgotten(3512 currently), and would love to go into the competitive playlist to continue this grind. But, to be completely honest, I’m terrified to. It has taken me a while to get to this point, and I feel like as soon as I step foot in the playlist, I’m just going to drop. This is simply due to the Reveler’s Tonic’s buff to grenade recharge rate. I have noticed several posts and talked to several friends who have played and they all say the same thing, “[b]Do not play competitive, it’s all skip grenades[/b].” This has put me in a tough spot because I do not want to play against 4 stacks of hunters all with Shinobu’s Vows and skip grenades, but I also want to continue grinding, as well as get my 80 weekly point bonus from playing games. On top of this though, this event runs for [b]3 weeks[/b]. This means if someone , like me, were to want to wait until the grenade spam ends, they would have to wait for 3 whole weeks. There’s a simple solution to this(and I’m sure you’ve seen this a million times), but it is to simply remove the Reveler’s Tonic buff from competitive. I have no problem with it being in quickplay, but it has no place in competitive in my opinion(and many others). If you read this far, thank you for taking the time! I simply wanted to post something that didn’t come off as an order or as a poorly worded complaint. Have a nice day! P.S.: Completely unrelated note, but maybe think of glory score floors as you rank up? Would help make loss streaks feel less punishing and cruel. :)[/quote] Eva herself said it. This event is about breaking the rules and having fun.
