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Why was Cayde coughing and panting? (Spoilers)

He is an Exo. I didn’t understand why he was coughing and breathing heavily in his death scene? Is this an oversight?
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  • Edited by Tofu: 3/27/2019 1:04:32 PM
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    It looks like you’ve got plenty of answers, but I didn’t see anyone mention Dissasociative Exomind Rejection by name. They put in all these features so that the humans mind does not sever itself from the Exo body due to lack of familiarity and die. (DER)

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    • Prolly his converter going out, yknow, he wasn’t turning carbon monoxide to carbon dioxide efficiently

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    • Human Cough program/script. To make the consciousness feel more humany.

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    • He wasn’t breathing. He was simply inhaling oxygen

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      • Exos still use and retain their basic human traits. Eating, sleeping, breathing, breathing heavily and coughing when you’re dying, etc etc

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      • Exos are still people. Just think of them as a human with a prosthetic... that’s meant to replace everything. They were also programmed to still hold onto human traits like eating, sleeping, and breathing.

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        • The lore reason is that Exos exhibit pointless human traits as a way of reconciling their psyche. The real reason is that they did it to show he was dying. Like how in animes every conceivable injury somehow makes characters spit up blood.

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          • Remember that exos have programed feelings and emotions like the desire for food. Also Cayde was a character to the end, he asked how his hair was. Finnaly, Cayde was once Human as are all exos if im not mistaken so when his consciousness was moved over his brain would have sill had the desire to breath. And heck, we dont know how exos work but they probably absorb oxygen for something

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            • Because Bungie can't decide if Exos are more human than robot. Example - biologically correct female anatomy on an exo - for what purpose? Not like you're going to nurse baby exos...... Makes for more drama and makes Cayde seem more of a human than a robot, but you're right, there would be no need for panting or coughing. Exos don't breathe.

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              • Lore wise, it was because Exo’s carry over human traits that are useless to them now. It helped to keep the Exo alive, otherwise the consciousness would reject the body and make it a painful death. Same reason Exo’s can eat, drink, sleep, and females have breasts

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              • I'm guessing it's a 'leftover' feeling/reaction from when he was human. In the same way an amputee may experience phantom pain in the limb they lost, someone who loses a whole body might still 'feel' things.

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              • Because an emotionless robot wouldn’t have any emotional impact on you... is this a serious question?

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              • In the lore cards (can’t think of which ones off the top of my head) it is stated that during the process of making an Exo, traits, gestures, habits, and other things were programmed within them to humanize them, so it’s possible that this is the case

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              • Well. The bullet home was right where a heart or some lungs would be on a human. So of course he would be coughing.

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              • The dude was legit -blam!-ing beaten to high hell, I’d care to believe that even an Exo would have a sort of response to that, since they are supposed to be an extension of human life.

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              • Exos have to eat, drink and breath like any other human for one reason. If the mind isn't convinced it's in a human, the early exo researchers found that it would just delete itself. They added a requirement of all the human bodily functions as a counter to this. Plus, they have to wipe an exos mind every so often to prevent a full deletion, and the number after an exos name shows the amount of wipes they've gone through. Banshee had 44, and Cayde went through 6.

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                • There some lore somewhere that says they emulate bio functions to keep from rejecting the mechanical systems or something like that.

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                • He got Dragonrot

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                • Smokes too much crack

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                • It might be that simulated breathing was included in exo physiology to help reduce the effects of DER, similar to the ability to eat and drink

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                  • One less dramatic hunter to worry about....

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                    • Probably the same reason General Grievous would cough and pant. To show that he was once organic.

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                        I would explain how Exo's use human-like behavior that disgrees with their Exo anatomy in order to fight DER, but then again coughing and panting is usually an involuntary reaction to stress on the body, which wouldn't make sense being that Human behavior in exos is supposed to be all VOLUNTARY because they are constantly fighting DER.

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                      • If you read some of the lore cards on exos, then it tells you about how they make them. They take a human mind and transfer it into the exo body. So almost everything the mind knows by instinct is still there. Then again, we don’t know much about exo anatomy.

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                        • Good question. Here’s my best guess: Humanisms, I say. We don’t know what it feels like being an Exo, but they can feel. After getting beat up and left on death’s front porch, he was probably in plenty of pain and too banged up to function properly. The coughs and wheezing wouldn’t have been for air, but from a lack of ability to function or speak through the pain and damage. His human mind naturally led him to cough and wheeze, because that’s a normal thing for humans. We have to keep in mind that it is a human mind inside an Exo, from a human body, and human minds do not belong in Exo bodies (which is why Dissociative Exomind Rejection exists). And, of course, it makes the scene more dramatic.

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                          • Did you play warmind? Have you scanned any of the lore on Mars? If you had, then you would know the answer to your question. This is why the game is in the state that it is. Not because of Bungie. But because of lazy players like you. If it's not spelled out in some grand cut scene that runs at 8K and 120 fps, you don't care about it. Or think that because it's not their, the game is garbage somehow.

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