This should be a lockout for people who back out of cues as full fireteam so they don't go against other fire teams of four

What part of crucible is team play?

I feel what a lot of people are saying but having a team isnt the easiest at times, like people got lives and schedules dont always line up. I play with atleast one other friend to help balance stuff out a little because I'd like to think of my Friend and I are pretty decent at PvP. But its ridiculous when you join a game at a disadvantage before it started, like Ive been facing 4 stack teams with only 3 people on my time including myself. In most cases the fourth teammate that I was missing most likely is the sole reason we lost. I dont care for four stacks with or against them I genuinely dont care but atleast just give me a full team I can work with having to pick up the slack of a completely missing entity of my team is ridiculous when pitted against evenly matched or slightly better enemies than myself/friend. Especially in gamemodes like Clash or Control, being a man down is a signifigant punishment, because it is still possible to win with a man down in Survival/Countdown although much harder in most cases but more likely than in Clash/Control. I dont see a reason why the game should start with a player missing on either team to be honest. Please Bungie either make two full teams of 4 against each other or just go back to a 3v3 model for competitive PvP because it seems your matchmaking has an easier time of atleast finding 3 people per team for every match compared to 4. Tired of losing Glory points for something that is entirely out of my control since the matchmaking decided to be lazy and say screw it you dont get a 4th teammate. Its Ridiculous. Please Bungie either 3v3s or give both teams 4 players instead of handicapping a team

Not enough players in the failed experiment called comp

the pinnacle weapons pretty much ruined pvp... I guess it's a good thing that they are rendered useless anywhere else in the game lol

Comp should come with a free lobotomy.

Doesn’t help when you have people effectively throwing trying to get void hand cannon kills.

People still play Competitive? Couldn't be me 😪

Dude, matchmaking is working just great .Playing solo after the changes in the selection was just a fairy tale.

I agree, so many other competitive games have this. People always say get teams bla bla bla. I don't need a team for overwatch or league of legends or rainbow but I need one for destiny? I can't be bothered to play with randoms on lfg as well, too much pressure and losing one game just breaks up the whole team.

Honestly if your going in to comp with the goal of hitting fabled or higher then get a team. Join an active clan and form a team you can gel with. Going in solo and complaining about teams, in a team based fame mode is fruitless.

Even better, just restrict fireteams of less than 4 from joining.

Comp is based around skill and teamwork. If your good enough, you can do good in solo. If not, when you play solo, you do bad because no teamwork with randoms. So if you don't have the skill to play solo then go find a group. They won't make the game easier for solos because they are not good enough to play solo and refuse to find a group.

There arent enough people or enough of a reason for this. Solo vs solo i can get behind, but asking for 3+1 vs 3+1? Thats never going to happen. That would only extend queue times and end up in way worse bias on connection quality, meaning worse games over all.

Why? Its not that hard. Clans are predictable. Easy win.