Who cares. PvP just needs to die off so we can all move on and focus on the good part of the game.

Meh....and they say hunters cry to much.

I feel warlocks are underwhelming in PvP in order to keep a kind of "balance" to the classes... Warlocks are gods of PvE and slightly above good in Gambit (they CAN clear adds, but dont have as reliable mechanics for doing so such as Tether or Hammers). If you look at Titans, they're pretty balanced across the board whilst being above average in Gambit (especially Hammer Titans, who are universally useful in Gambit). Hunters are absolute PvP gods. Their abilities and supers seem designed specifically to grant an edge in PvP, especially with the maps in D2. However, aside from a few outliers, their usefulness in PvE is a little more limited and the same can be said for Gambit. Each class now has a game mode where at least one subclass excels in and a game mode where another class would be more useful/preferable. I'm not saying it's impossible to do anything outside of this (like a really good Destiny player can wipe the floor in PvP with a warlock, or solo any PvE content minus raids) but the classes do seem to grant an edge in different game modes.

NO

nah bruh warlocks are the best class in the game what are you talking about (proceeds to play hunter with stompees)

All classes are the same in crucible. It’s entirely dependent on the player. There are no classes that are suffering or what not in the crucible. That just means you aren’t good with that class.

Warlocks....always crying even though they are the most op... pathetic

They are underpowered in PvP but everything you said here is wrong XD ironically. I agree with the main topic. I don’t however agree with a single thing you said.

They need a buff, but the thing about supers being able to be shut down by a single shotgun shot is not exclusive to warlocks. Thunder crash, golden gun, and many more can also be one shot by a shotgun. I agree with warlocks needing a buff, but don't use an argument that isn't supported by facts.

The thing with warlocks is that theyre slow, and have a horrible jump In d1 they made up for that by having a longer melee range and really powerful grenades(axion bolt, storm nade ect) and really powerful supers But in d2 theyre slow with no up sides, their melee is the same as other classes, grenades are terrible in general, and the supers are meh Warlocks should have a lower cooldown on abilities built in with no mods and those abilities should be more powerful then both the other classes, or they need to seriously buff warlocks movement A wizard style class needs strong abilities with op supers, imo the warlock supers should be op asf, but lower health, novewarp should be changed back but nerf the armor even more then it is now They should be a glass cannon not a metal slingshot

[quote]A shorter ranged melee and the slower melee[/quote] They have a slower speed, they still have the same range on their melee. I agree that they should all be the same speed but you clearly haven't done any testing. [quote]Can be 1 shot in their Super from any other super Shut down Super or Roaming! or 1 shot by a shotgun. On the other hand though all you can do is run from Supers from Titan or Hunter and would have to have Hit them 3 times! with a Warlock super or a continuous duration of time trained on them (any Arc Super class in the Warlock tree) mean while all it takes to kill a warlock in their super is a [b]SINGLE [/b] hammer or swipe from a blade to knock a Warlock out of their super.[/quote] Everything stated here is inaccurate. You can't be one shot by a shotgun in your super doesn't matter which one you are running. All shutdown supers will (as the name implies) shutdown any super not just warlock ones. There are no non-shutdown supers that can one shot other supers(aside from 3 shot Goldie, which takes a headshot and a decent amount of skill). In terms of power Warlock Supers are severely underpowered compared to Hunter's and Titans. Either Warlocks need to be brought up to Titan and Hunter's level or Titan and Hunter's need to be brought down to Warlock level. [quote]In PvE Warlocks are probably number 1, however in PvP they are underpowered enough that you are just handicapping yourself if you use them. Look at the numbers. Warlocks are the least played class in PvP. Especially in competitive.[/quote] Despite the corrections I made, I don't disagree warlocks need a buff of some sort. They are the worst class in PvP consistently due to mostly their lack of mobility. [spoiler]As a Warlock fan from Day 1 in Destiny 1 and somebody who likes to play PvP please give them a buff/second look from a PvP perspective. Learn the meaning of Balance! In PvP they are like the red headed step child that you're trying to ship off to military school to get rid of lol.[/quote] Bungie and most people don't care about the fact that you have been playing since D1. I have as well but it doesn't make you opinion more or less valid it's a null point and should be ignored.

No dude, you just don’t know how to play as a warlock.

[i]laughs in dawnblade[/i]

titans are only good if your using oem

For now try top tree dawnblade or nova bomb,nova warp needs a bit of a buff but it has great neutral game,if you’re really into it

I just think there should be something to compensate for the ridiculously bad jump. But there isnt, we're just titans with a worse jump, exotics and one good roaming super as dawnblade.