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2/22/2019 3:00:36 PM
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Bungie: If You Continue To Ruin PVE With This Ridiculous Failed Balance Approach, This Franchise Deserves To Fail

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  • Are balance issues the worst problem with Destiny 2 PvE? Or is it a lack of fun, engaging and meaningful content, not enough worlds/areas, really terrible and boringly predictable AI, etc.? I'm not saying that PvP weapon and gear balance issues aren't adversely impacting how they work in PvE, because obviously they are, but that's an issue with how Bungie does the balancing (i.e. Bungie promised to balance PvP and PvE separately, yet clearly they lied :P), not because the presence of PvP in the game is itself necessarily a problem. But getting rid of PvP at this point isn't going to solve Destiny 2's major issues with PvE, such as a lack of fun content that is replayable, it won't fix basic game design flaws where bosses, mobs, etc. are either bullet sponges or have some ridiculously convoluted mechanic which must be performed in order to kill bosses or bosses remain immune, all because of a lack of a decent AI, etc. PvPers will always complain about balance issues with guns, gear, subclasses, supers, etc. because even tiny changes in those game mechanics unfairly imbalance the game. But that doesn't mean that Bungie should ignore the impact that their PvP changes have on PvE, and dealing with PvP balance issues shouldn't be used as an excuse for not dealing with the major issues with PvE on Destiny 2 in terms of lack of meaningful content, progression, or indeed, fixing drop rates for everything from Exotics to Dreaming City ships and emblems and shells, broken Triumphs, bad pseudo-RNG, etc.

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    • Ai is shit Mission design is shit Patrol zones are shit. But no... It's the nerfs. That's what's ruining pve

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        Oh no, my ability to shoot literal robots.

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      • Honest question. I do a good bit of pve and pvp. Have y’all ever actually struggled in pve because of a nerf that came from pvp? It doesn’t seem to change much for me to the point where I freak out all my stuff isn’t working or I can’t stay alive

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          What's With Capitalising Every Word You Illiterate Son Of A Bitch

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          • They need to force people to use other guns because according to the analytics, it appears they cannot make decent usable guns because people only use the few good ones they made. That is why they are forcing people to use other guns now

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            • Pvp has and always will hold this franchise back the pve and pvp cannot live in the same space. Warframe is a perfect example of the crazy weapons,armour and Abilities we can have when pvp is not involved.

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              • I'm guessing they have 1 super op gun in that secondary slot coming in the new dlc. Weakening the EP will mean there will be a new meta weapon that requires the new dlc to own. It's why they shat all over scout rifles before the forsaken and bows come out.

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                • The patch isn't even out yet. Shut up and wait.

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                  • Edited by DeathPony07: 2/23/2019 9:28:07 PM
                    Nerfing weapons we spent a lot of time grinding for is complete bullshit. This is a looter shooter. Grinding for powerful weapons is literally the point of the game. Nobody cries about legendary or rare guns being better than others in Borderlands. They're supposed to be better. Stop catering to the crybaby neckbeards. All they do is ruin the game for normal players.

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                  • What are you crying about now? Lol you kids are never satisfied.

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                  • From.reading these forums I've come to a conclusion: This game is like a drug, first it gets you addicted, then it drives you crazy. This forum is full of the crazies. Guys, please play something else for a while and refresh your brain.

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                    • Haha. No one knows how the game actually plays with these changes yet.

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                    • But Why Do You Capitalize Every Single Word You Type, It Just Adds A Ridiculous Amount Of Work To Your Texting.

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                      • #REMOVEPVP And its playerbase for good

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                        • Edited by iDare2Defy: 2/23/2019 11:25:40 PM
                          I wish they’d make snipers fun again. I wouldn’t be so upset about the shotgun nerf if I actually liked using snipers in D2. I like the Ikelos. It is an amazing looking and feeling gun. That’s why I’ve mainly used it. I do miss sniping. All I want is a an energy high impact sniper with snapshot and firefly. Too bad those don’t exist in D2 :/

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                        • Anthem is going to kill destiny.... oh wait that games terrible....... where did all those posts go so I can tell them told ya so 😂🤣 Destiny is dry atm it'll kill itself without trials/a major DLC.

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                        • Anthems out hurry and play it before it dies out we will see you at penumbra launch

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                        • Bungie gives you more options thanks to a huge buff for shotguns and admits a gross oversight on their part about full auto and you're mad? Nani

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                          • Stop crying

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                          • No

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                          • I call bs. Rapid fire shotguns melted bosses in ridiculous time. That's not challenging in any sense. The nerf was fully needed.

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                            • What exactly have they ruined this time?

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                            • So double damage modifier, then cut the fire rate by 30% is still a net positive in dps. You get that right? All shotguns got stronger, other than LoA.

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                              • Edited by MouthMaggot: 2/23/2019 12:36:59 AM
                                This game died with the burial of D1. D2 isn't even worth our gaming time. Yes bungie made a assload of cash off us so many years saying it's gonna get better..after 3 years there was so much to do. Then D2 started. The highest hyped lie ever pulled off. Then a complete year of shit. Then they let another studio make foresaken and it was almost playable again. Then the dawning come out and millions jumped ship. They ran out of excuses and time. This company is always charging the most for doing the least. The games bipolar and neither side knows wtf is supposed to be or do. Loot and shoot.. boring shoot and crap loot. Yes they can give the game away for free or $5 to pretend people playing. People arnt. Friends lists don't lie. They are gonna recycle and suck every last drop from this pile. But make no mistakes. You will not receive anything that requires real work to code or change. A season of Gambit? After a lifetime of chasing meatballs etc already? Running the same shit for a new crap gun isn't fun or worth anyone's time. Okay bathroom times over. Back to anthem

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                                • What was ruined

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