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Edited by Spawn:
9/18/2018 4:33:36 PM
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Upvote to leave sleeper alone
As topic says....
I die from it as much as I kill with it.
Just deal with it and join in. It’s super fun
Have people thought of tracking rockets? They are fire and forget in the right hands.
As a matter of interest, is it solo players who want the nerf more so than team players
If it is to get a nerf or “changes” guardians will just find another weapon to use, and that’s when the cycle will start, and then where will it end.
#leavesleeperalone
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This is how it all started back in D1...
Don’t let it happen again
Edit 2:
Great comments guys for and against, remember it’s the best gun for dps from range, just so happens it’s good for the pvp aspect as well.
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Let’s hope bungie get this right, I mean nerf it for pvp but don’t take away one of the best heavy weapons in the game in pve.
Edit 4:
So bungie tweeted about the sandbox team looking in to POSSIBLE changes.
Had some suggestions from you guys.
Change the heavy ammo economy for gambit, maybe one heavy drop per round.
Only allow heavy to drop when the primeval spawns in.
Have heavy ammo taken away when you invade.
Over 500 upvotes wow guys this is great.
Great discussion, people do have some good points for the pros and cons of the sleeper
[spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to #Feedback forum so that other Destiny players can weigh in. See [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139533839/0/0]Cozmo's thread[/url] for more information about the #Feedback tag and its uses.
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I would like to see heavy ammo reduced for invaders... I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, I don't really think the sleeper is too strong in gambit when examining purely the weapon. On the other hand, the presence of the sleeper seems almost mandatory. I remember when I avoided crucible because of the same feeling with Mida. There may not be much wrong with it necessarily, but it isn't fun either for those of us who don't want to use it. The sandbox team SHOULD look at it, but I'll accept whatever outcome they determine except for a straight up nerf
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Yeah just bully me instead
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4 RepliesIt’s the gametype that needs to be adjusted, it basically makes it so that sleeper requires no charge time because you have line of sight constantly, no need to spot an enemy and then charge it up, all they gotta do is get rid of the constant seeing through walls, either adjust it, or get rid of it, the sleeper is fine the way it is, the gametype just needs to be adjusted.
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7 RepliesJust remove it from Gambit, no nerfs or anything
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I agree that the Sleeper is used too much but instead of ruining the gun in PvP and PvE by nerfing it why can't Bungie just make it so that heavy ammo only drops in the ammo cache. It will make the use of heavy weapons a more strategic asset whether you want to spill your heavy on the prime evil or use it against the invaders and when invading. It keeps the gun the way it is and allows for players to use less Sleeper in PvP. If Bungie nerfs the sleeper I'm just going to grind for the Tarantula and use it the same way, its a one shot just takes a couple milliseconds more to charge up and fire. The problem is the ammo drops not the weapons. Bungie said Destiny 2s' exotics are supposed to feel exotic and nerfing everything like they did in Destiny 1 will just cause more hate. Bungie devs if your reading this nerf the ammo spawns in gambit not weapons. If you want other ways to suppress the use of the sleeper I can probably come up with plenty of ideas, my number one bypass is to ban exotic weapons in PvP in general making PvE with exotics still fun and makes them still useful and makes crucible more skill based rather than the first person to fill heavy or their exotic.
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Most of the people that are complaining about sleeper are the people that are struggling with hand cannon kills for the ace of spades quest. Sleeper doesn’t need a nerf, just change the quest slightly to include killing AS an invader. Problem solved.
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Sleeper is getting nerfed, no matter how many petitions exist.
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Take it out of competitive play altogether ............ problem solved
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All I see are sheep.
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1 ReplyEdited by Sinisis: 9/18/2018 9:56:58 PMThe number of upvotes is proof, as I thought, that the people complaining are in the minority. This tends to be true in most MMOs. They are so whiny though, that Bungie feels compelled to cater to their wants - not needs. Ironically, because nerfherders tend to be casuals, they are the first to leave when the changes end up hurting the game overall. Good to see the community take a stand against this.
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7 Repliesforget sleeper, once I see people pulling out a thousand voices I'm going to be terrified
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3 RepliesIf they cave and nerf it, I may just uninstall Destiny. This is getting ridiculous ...
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1 ReplyHow to nerf sleeper: [spoiler]Bring back Vex and vanilla pocket infinity[/spoiler]
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6 RepliesIt's pretty much clear what the community wants...and that's not a nerf for the sleeper! But unfortunately, as a D player since D1 beta that was never something Bungle gave a crap about. I also die by the sleeper here and there, but a nerf for sleeper would still never be an option to me.
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Edited by pop_kid24: 9/18/2018 11:20:19 PMThe problem isn't sleeper itself, it's that when invading you can see where they are and easily kill an entire team because of it. Hell, i've wiped a team with a bow quite a few times. The sleeper is super effective when you can see where the targets are, but take that away and it's nowhere near as effective.
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I Agree, leave it alone bungie..... I die from it just as much, but part of the fun is trying to counter it in gambit. If its not sleepers its a sniper.....100% agree with no nerf
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-blam!- people with no skill, no pve nerf required, just remoove the 1shot at body in pvp and we are good.
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I would rather them get rid of Gambit. It's just meh anyways. As someone who doesn't have the Whisper the Sleeper is what I turn too. I guess not anymore.
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9 RepliesI was pissed to start with but after fighting fire with fire I don't care now. #LeaveTheSSAlone
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wow, amazing how your game has to make pve suffer from balancing pvp
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It can be countered. I don't know what the big deal is. Linear Fusion Rifles, snipers....
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I agree, please leave the weapon alone. It is a long road to get it and it is an exotic, that means it should be and feel powerful. As other people have mention I kill and die by it a lot. Also, people can just fight sleeper with sleeper.
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As annoying as it is to die by sleeper, I don't think they should nerf it.
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It's funny how Bungie made a post about "tuning" Sleeper but won't hardly say anything about infusion even though everyone is complaining about it.
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Point is bungie might aswell delete every other weapon from the game because what's the point of them if scrubs just sleeper? Buff other weapons but don't nerf.
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I don't understand what the big deal is. Sleeper is strong, but it can be countered. Linear Fusion Rifles, Sniper Rifles can counter it.
