It’s absolutely hilarious how the hardcore pricks are attacking the OP and how they say it’s perfectly normal to lock subclasses behind a RAID as every other MMO does it. Ok wiseguys. Please enlighten us which MMO’s out there do this? I have played many MMO’s the past two decades and have yet to play one who does this! Endgame RAIDs provide RAID specific loot to make you stronger via Armor and Weapon drops. It's the top meta game for those that have the time, will and dedication to do it. Skills and Abilities always unlock through leveling and playing the basic game! It’s pretty much a known statistic that in most popular MMO’s only 0,5% - 1% of the playerbase attempts Endgame RAIDing. Not only because of the skill and dedication required, but also because of the sheer time commitment a lot of people aren’t able to. So please tell us how it’s a good idea to lock subclassses behind the RAID only 0,5 - 1% of the playerbase will be able to do not to mention able to complete. It’s one thing getting 6 people together and attempting the Raid. Let alone being able to complete it. Even the first boss. Especially if the first Destiny 2 RAID was any indication. Me and my friends did every Raid in Destiny1, but in Destiny 2 we didn't bother, since the first RAID was absolute garbage! It’s totally ridiculous that 99% of the players will never be able to unlock these subclasses!

Lets be patient people-------------------------"However, Cozmo, one of Bungie’s Community Managers, sent out a tweet telling players that there will be other opportunities to unlock the Seeds of Light. While no specifics are given, many players believe this means that there will be opportunities outside of the raid to earn the final Seed of Light." --------------Just give it time. Remember the Gjallahorn!

I wish people could actually think before overreacting like this

We already know that a very low% of people actually complete raids. Hiding class there is horrible, and almost false advertisement. No warning. You show videos of your supers, and use them as selling points, and don't inform the community it would be locked behind the raid. What if a new player bought this and can't do raid (since you would even have to use lfg, and hope your team finishes)? Seems so misleading to the consumer. I know personally I'll do raid, but I think it's super messed up to do that.

Yep, this decision is beyond stupid. Putting raid gear and other specific raid related items behind the raid is fine. No issue with that at all, in fact that's how it should be. Putting a basic component of the game behind the raid is a desperate attempt to try and push more people into playing it.

Bungie shouldn’t be locking anything behind raids other than pure cosmetics if they aren’t willing to give us matchmaking, let alone a subclass drop. I was already beyond pissed when I found out The Supremacy, one of the only new and the only cool new kinetic sniper rifle, is a raid drop.

Yup.. Just Bungies way to ensure ppl play the raid. They are begging ppl to play that boring Well in the DC and this new raid. Abilities should 100% never be tied to an event that requires a team. Solo players who don't raid are screwed. Whomever thought this was a good idea is clueless. Utterly clueless.

It’s a pathetic attempt to get more people to play the Raid. The answer to that has always been MATCHMAKING! Every time Bungie starts to build a little goodwill amongst their customers, they screw it up. It actually appears intentional at this point. Until there is matchmaking, the Raids will continue to be the least played. It’s ridiculous that customers have to use third-party apps to play a particular mode. If I want to take my chances with matchmaking, I should be able to do it.

I think a lot of people don't realize how few players actually do Raids in Destiny. Based on Trophy and Achievement statistics, more than 80% of players haven't completed the Leviathan. Locking a third Seed of Light behind a Raid encounter just ensures most of the playerbase won't get all three of the new paths. EDIT: The Trophy statistics aren't great for D1 either. Only 20.8% have finished a raid in D1, only 9% finished Normal King's Fall, and only 5.1% finished Normal Wrath of the Machine.

How many of you crybabies are on this forum? Nothing is "locked behind a raid". The answer is your incompetent. There's this thing, called [b]LFG[/b]. It allows you to run in groups, nice right? You can also find what's called a [b]sherpa[/b] group. Who will teach you the raid too. Wow! So considering the first encounter is also very easy to get down and do, why are you crying? Level yourself up, complete the first raid encounter. This game isn't for people like you, as people like you ruin it with your whining because you can't complete an encounter. The game is catering more towards the hardcore players now, which is AMAZING. Please. For the love of god just do it once and stop.

Excuse me if i sound like a dick but, why are all you people complaining about the third seed of light? Its only the first encounter, and the encounter itself is not that difficult either. Sorry it just sounds like all of yall are complaining to complain.

LOL I think it's funny as hell how stupid this company has become with there controlling how gamers play their game. If this is true, they have reached a new level of stupidity and I'm sure they have more stupid ideas yet to come. Just another reason among many on why not to buy forsaken at this point. This game has been a huge mess since launch, and when you just start to think this company can't get any more stupid than they actually are they pull lame things like this. I like it when gamers say "Bungie listens to their player base". Yeah lol. Edit: If Bungie has to do something like this then this tells me they don't have diddly-squat as far as adding content to this game goes.