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The way people are treating Solo Players makes me feel DISGUSTED to be a co op player

You treat them like they're nothing but dirt, only fit to be under your heel. And now I'm expected to view them the same way just because I Do Raids and PvP with clanmates?! I'm not above them and [b][i]YOU'RE[/i][/b] not above them either! We all paid the same money for this game, why should we segregate ourselves?!! Edit: It seems my post didn't rub on some people correctly, Allow me to (Try) and Rectify that. I am not saying Solo players shouldn't have to at least put in the effort to get the endgame loot whether that be with randoms or new friends they make along the path, But when players openly attack and insult them, That's where I draw the line. Example: a forum user (As much as it'd add at least SOME validity to my case I cannot state their name) made a forum post which has now been removed by Moderators. In said post, they called solo players "the problem" and that they should "Play how the game is intended or not play at all" Example 2: This comment comes from this very thread! (you know who you are and the rest can see it if they search) [quote]They are dirt. If they have they opportunity to play with others, they should. Asocial degenerates.[/quote] THIS is what I'm against!
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  • There’s no such thing as a solo player to me. I used to be a “solo player” back in TTK but when I couldn’t go past 280 I thought, maybe I should try the raid and nightfall. Now I’m always doing a raid at least once a week and I’m in a clan called raiders of the galaxy.

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    • so sick of this topic. Solo players should play the solo content and not whine that the multiplayer content isn't available for them. Problem solved.

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      • I have nothing against solo players, I play 80% solo. I'm against solo players asking for the game (particularly endgame) to be catered toward them. Destiny is a co-op game, the game is designed around trying to get people to play together. Creating endgame content for solo players is going to defeat the entire premise of Destiny being a co-op game. After all, why bother trying to raid with 6 players when I can achieve the same end goal by myself. Now sure, 'if I want to play co-op, I still can', but that's not the point. Bungie [i]should[/i] be trying to coax us out of our comfort zones to dip our toes into co-op end game. If you're absolutely against co-op play, or think that you're [i]entitled[/i] to solo endgame, then you've chosen the wrong genre of game to match your playstyle. Rather than ask that the game change to suit your needs, you might need to try a different game. This viewpoint may be hypocritical if you saw that I played D2 almost exclusively solo, but that's kind of my point. Bungie's catered too much to solo players, as long as you're in a clan, there's no need to interact with anyone else. Why bother raiding when someone else can do it and I get rewards for it. No need to do a nightfall, either. As long as I'm bumming around in Patrol, I can get to max level. D1 forced me out of my comfort zone if I wanted max level. And for a co-op game, I think that's how it should be. If you want a single player game, don't buy a co-op game.

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        • Happy to see not all co-op players are entitled dickheads Big fat massive bumb

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        • I just like to not listen to people.

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        • This game has always attracted the ugliest trolls. It's a typical bully tactic of finding something to insult people and running with it from the safety of their phones/keyboards. Truth be known most of the people throwing shade at solo players probably play solo most the time too. The mods need to come down hard on the people posting personal insults and get them banned. With the new restrictions on the forum that should rid most trolls. I play mainly with lfg groups lately if I want to raid and frankly most of the time I can understand why solo players are so reluctant to use the feature. There's a lot of idiots on lfg and it annoys me that a lot of times there is at least one player who is quiet as a mouse and that's because he is young and fears he'll get booted for being a "squeaker". Solo players are getting the short end of the stick simply because some players get upset that they have a weapon or are at a level that doesn't mean a damn thing to the way [i]they[/i] play the game. Pathetic quite honestly.

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        • this is the official reply from solo players to all those whining about solo players, saying we all feel self entitled and 'raids are meant to be coop' etc etc and all the other arrogant attitudes. >what? your an arrogant self opinionated, overbearing ass who abuses others in raids if they dont know the raid inside out, even tho they never played the raid before? you too good to remember you were new once? you too good to have tolerance for others.? i would raid if not for the kinds of scum in these threads. i would raid if you people who whine about solo players could remember to think before screaming abuse over a mic when someone learning a raid makes an error. its a GAME ppl grow the eff up i would raid but you people here complaining about solo players are why i dont.

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          • It's a multiplayer game what did they expect? You can't play every game solo lmao just use lfg stop complaining about it. This let's help everyone mentality is why d2 is a casual and easy mess.

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            • This sounds surprisingly similar to snowflake Americans apologizing for being American. Ridiculous libtard generation

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            • This isn't about Co-op players versus Solo players. This is about TOXIC players (who need to run down others so that they can feel good about themselves) and non-toxic ones. The problem is that such toxic people usually make a beeline for the places that (they believe) confer the most status, or where they can prove (to themselves) how much better they are than others. Which is why you see---in this community----a much higher number of them among raiders and end-game PVP players. You are not responsible for them, and how they choose to act. You are only responsible for your own choices. Do not cooperate with what they wish to do to this community....and then happily go about your day. See at the front, Guardian.

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              • Perhaps people are getting tired of the entitlement...

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              • In general it’s the problem with Forums and social media that some people think their view is the only one of importance or that they can just say what they like with impunity while hiding behind a keyboard. Seems there are some that don’t understand there are players that may have social/behavioural issues that prevent them from playing with others - why when society quite often misunderstands and mistreats them should they then also be punished by not being able to play games of interest to them because only Co-Op matters. Think there are many that could learn by viewing the world from another’s point of view and use that to temper responses and opinions. Having autism within the family really teaches lessons on how to value the view of others, not be dismissive and most importantly not be rude, obnoxious and down right horrible just for the sake of it or because one thinks it’s funny

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                • I was a co-op player in d1, but am now a solo player. Friends left me for people who can play more often, and the clan I joined doesn't play with me because they don't know if I'm good or not... So I'll just sit here doing public events over and over until I go even more insane.

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                  • The thing with solo players, especially myself, is that we're always able to adapt to situations somewhat quickly and are able to focus on alot more without other people making call outs and whatnot. Thats not to say that co-op players can't focus while talking to eachother, but its much easier to keep track of a situation, for me atleast, when i'm alone, and even sometimes i commentate my gameplay just to make a mental note. I'm a strong co-op player, i'm a stronger solo player. If I realize that I can't do an activity alone, such as the raids, then I'll go look for help, but i thrive off of challenging activities, such as the Black Spindle mission in d1. That was a really fun solo experience. Hopefully the "Hive escalation event" will be a great solo experience, much like the archons forge or prison of elders was for me. TL;DR: Just because we're solo players doesn't mean we're incapable, or that we dont ever want help with anything. Just let us try it on our own a couple hundred more times then we'll see about that help

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                    • Agree! Thank you for saying this. Even if you're the most hardcore co-op player, no solo player is going to alter/ruin your experience with the game. This game was designed for ALL of us and the uppity co-opers need to get off their high horses and stop worrying about everyone else. PS: I wouldn't be too discouraged. I truly believe this forum makes up a tiny fraction of those who play Destiny. Most of the people on here are on here just to kick up dirt and be salty. I'd guess that many of the awful comments are from people who don't play anymore (or never did, to begin with)... and their average age is somewhere around 11 years old.

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                    • I am a solo player. I am not treated like dirt. I can do better than pretty much anyone who reads this comment And yes, I do it with non meta weapons and armor

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                      • The game needs more matchmaking options, a huge majority of this player base does not even go on the forums, and guided games are trash and no one uses it, my clan tried to use guided games to help a fellow guardian clear the raid but we ended up waiting about 2 hours to find someone and when we did find someone, he didn't even speak English and he left immediately. Btw Solo players make up a huge [b]Majority[/b] of this games player base so saying F*** them is not the way to go.

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                        • How do you propose people act when some players whine and cry about not getting good loot and ruin the game play for most of the other players, solo or not. Should the rest just role over and take it or do they have a right to be mad? I dislike the way raid and trials engrams work even in a Clan because it removes incentive s I sure a heck don't want some solo player who puts in 0 effort to get rewards that other players earn with time and effort. I'm not fond of name calling but I certainly understand the frustration.

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                        • Edited by Konrad: 4/30/2018 7:59:17 PM
                          [quote]I'm a co-op player[/quote] I'll take horse shit for 400. This whole debate is -blam!-, you want the rewards for the raid, nightfall, or trials then do the activities. There's no need for users to be max power because power only goes into effect in the Raid and Nightfall. "BuT i DoN't WaNnA dO mUlTiPlAyEr!" Tough shit, the game needs activities to keep players invested and gutting existing content to make it "easier to access" is exactly what got us D2 Vanilla. Yes the game needs solo player content, BUT the game also needs Multiplayer content. Edit: Oh I nearly forgot, solo players aren't even prevented from reaching max power, it just takes longer. This whole fiasco is stupid, and people are acting like rabid dogs for no reason.

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                        • I still don’t understand how the -blam!- the morons at Bungie went from such a good place in RoI, where you had a valid route for both solo and group players to reach the top, to the bullshit we have now.

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                          • "You treat them like they're nothing but dirt, only fit to be under your heel. " No we don't treat them as anything. They literally mean nothing in the scheme of the rest of us playing. We don't need them, and they don't want to play with us. Let them rot in lonely matchmaking.

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                          • I can't believe that we are all used to the lack of content delivered in the game to where it has put us to the point where we should only expect one thing instead of pushing for two separate things such as a solo PvE encounter and a 6 man required PvE encounter. There shouldn't be an argument on whether the raids should be able to be done solo or with matchmaking, Bungie just needs to support both types of players. Activating shield for unintelligent abuse from the idiots on both sides... Action failed.

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                          • This whole solo vs group narrative is pure cringe.

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                          • I know this is more of a deal about solo play, but if you're on PC struggling to reach out to get into more things you can always lurk around in this discord. They do a bit of everything, it's an accumulation of multiple clans and players that are willing to do the various activities in the game. https://discord.gg/RrfGGVz

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                          • All I can say is...[i]1v1 me on May 8th co-op scrubs. No teams and no f*cks given...woot woot! [/i]

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                          • Solo players suck

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