Here's what's been missing from the Introvert/Solo arguments so far: sometimes introverts/solo players don't want to talk to ANYONE, even FRIENDS. They find it TIRING.
What the introverts argue: "There's too many trolls and squeekers, I don't want to deal with randos."
What the extroverts throw back: "You just have to find the right people/clan, we're not all trolls and squeekers!"
And the extroverts are never going to win that argument. Because what the introverts mean is "I don't want to have to chat with ANYONE. I want psychic silence. I don't mind if you're here helping me with this activity in-game, but I don't want to TALK to you about it, or LISTEN to your chatter. Sometimes I'll consent to chat with a small group of friends, and other times I won't. You can't make me, deal with it."
And then give them their damn solo endgame content. Geez, it's equally abnormal to ONLY want to do things in groups. We all need some solo time.
EDIT: Nearly everyone here apparently suffers from poor reading comprehension skills. I'm describing what many extreme introverts go through. I never said I was an introvert. Honestly, some of you are just as bad at making assumptions as Ghaul was when he assumed the Traveler talked to the Speaker.
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2 Replies"Introverts" knew what they were buying. It was all advertized. If people want single player games they can just buy single player games. It's not that hard to understand.
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Amen! After working with children (teacher) all day, I am not looking forward to conversing with friends while playing Destiny. I want to relax, chill, and give my mind a break. Anyway, I avoid using my mic for any game unless I absolutely need to.
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3 RepliesEdited by [SiN]大き氷: 4/27/2018 8:37:41 PMAlso there's the purveyed idea that being introverted is bad. Just so everyone knows, it isn't.
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Then why the F would they buy a game that requires you to talk to people? It was clear what kind of game this is after 3 years of D1. It sounds like they chose poorly when buying the game. That's no one's fault but their own.
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I’m already tired of talking to you guys. Log out
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playing with others is the point of the game..... i understand if someone doesnt want to talk but i dont think people should complain that there is no solo endgame
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2 RepliesI'm still at a loss about the argument of "Destiny is a team game" or shit like that. I just fail to see why it can't be both. I mean I do the team stuff during raids and strikes and what not, but I do play the game by myself too. Am I the only fxcker that plays alone from time to time but also plays in groups? Why the hell is there even an "either/or" argument all the time?
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I never understood being shy online. I’m a MASSIVE introvert in real life, but online I can meet anyone pretty much.
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16 RepliesThere's a reason I haven't touched either of the raids in this game. Almost every phase requires callouts and at times constant communication. I just can't do it, atleast in 90% of the D1 Raids I never had to say a word, unless it was Aksis or Oryx, in which case one or two words.
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I’m a solo player and I don’t mind fandoms if they aren’t dirtbags that take gaming serious like they’ll die if they can’t be the best.
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2 RepliesOh god, you've drawn out the "depressed" 12 year olds who think beong an introvert makes them superior.
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Everyone assumed that, and why would you buy this game if that's what you want? Nobody is making you play with other people. The introverts want bungie to create additional content solely for them. Campaign, strikes, adventures, and crucible apparently aren't enough for them. They want 99.9% of this game for them instead of the current 99.7%.
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The internet age has seriously eroded people's social skills. Up to and including social anxiety. I see this regularly in my daily life. I wouldn't expect it to be different in gaming.
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Ever here of single player games. Destiny was designed to be fireteam of multiple members.
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3 RepliesEdited by Coldhands: 4/27/2018 3:35:57 PMI think Destiny 2 needs more/better solo endgame as well, but not to cater to people who don't want to talk/group. Destiny 2 is a multiplayer focused game, and I don't think it should try to cater to players who don't want to play it that way ... but it should cater to players who can't always play it that way. Your friends aren't always going to be on at the same times you are, and it'd be nice to have meaningful content to play while you're waiting for your schedules to sync up. Heroic missions in Destiny 1 were a good way to kill time when I got off work and free an hour before my Destiny buddies. Or when life happened and somebody needed to go AFK for a while. But they were also something we all wanted to play anyway because they provided meaningful rewards/challenge. Meaningful content to focus on in my own time would a good improvement, especially if it's something my friends can drop right into with me as soon as they sign on. Destiny 2 shouldn't hold anybody's hand and provide them a solo path to all rewards, it's not that kind of game, but it should give players compelling things to do alone, so we aren't wandering off to some other game as soon as we don't have any friends on.
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it is clear there are multi personalties in this community. most of which will never see i to i .
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In general I’m pretty outgoing with chill groups. Add one d-bag into the equation and I’ll clam up and let the d-bag do what d-bags do best.
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8 RepliesThe ENDGAME in Destiny is, trials for pvp and raid for pve players. Did you ever try doing a raid with 6 people but no mic? Try that then we will talk... Everything other than these activities can be played solo. Also what endgame activity do you ask to be solo play in an online coop (multiplayer) game? I, myself sometimes dont want to talk with people, just play game and even make myself offline at psn. But if you are talking about ENDGAME, sry but there is no such thing like solo endgame.
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If an introvert doesn't want to talk in a multiplayer game then complain about it, THEN GO PLAY A SOLO GAME!!!
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I get it. For the majority of D1, I was a solo player who didn’t use a mic. I GET IT! But seriously. Try it. First time I used a mic and actually spent some time with people, I made amazing friends who I know to this day. Raids are meant to have communication and sorry, but there are a lot of ways to level up as a solo-player. Honestly, if you just tried it (not you specifically), you might see. I get it. But Destiny IS A TEAM FOCUSED GAME. It is. Has been since the launch of D1. It is a FPS, Massively Muliplayers Online Game. I’m sorry but it’s the truth. It’s why there’s more clan support now. But Bungie is at least trying to give you guys things like public events and packages and guided games. If I had it my way, Raid would be almost required for endgame. It would motivate people to meet others and find friends who they might feel more comfortable around. So seriously, I’m sorry, but no. If your an introvert and your trying to play a multiplayer game like this, don’t expect Bungie to suddenly make everything easy and give solo players an easy way to get max light, just because you, “Don’t want to talk to people”.
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As an introvert, I have to say that if you find co-op play so debilitating, you shouldn't have bought a co-op game.
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Edited by ( -_•)︻デ═一: 4/27/2018 6:38:49 AMThe thing you and apparently they are missing is others don't need to acquiesce to them, it's the other way around. Solo the campaign. Solo the nightfalls. You can even adjust your settings and solo the strikes. But once you step into a TEAM arena you're now expected to be part of the team dynamic. And if you're unwilling to do so then you don't reap those rewards. I say this AS a solo introvert. I mic up when needed. Sometimes I joke around and join the convo but I'm primarily silent unless call outs are needed. Get with the program or get left in the dust
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7 RepliesI'm a scrub and I've run raids with 2 people that didn't speak, no mics/couldn't speak English but understood it. They just took the jobs that didn't require them to speak. Leviathan: gauntlet shooters Dogs flower pollenation Throne room psion punching The other stuff doesn't really require much communicating. EOW: Argos phase 1, runner Argos phase 2, defender Actually argos you can usually get by with a few silent people, as long as you have 2-3 people that can make the call outs on the plates, those can be either runner or defender. I've run NF without mics a lot, in fact when I run NF with regulars we barely talk about anything pertaining to the NF, with the exception of "stay alive" if they are the only ones alive. People that have this idea that raids requires constant communication are over-complicating it. I used to think that was the case and actually stayed away from the raids because of that perception. But having actually been through a couple now, I can say that's not the case. I'm usually very quiet on the mics during raids because I play when the baby sleeps and I can't make much noise so as not to wake him up. Trials I can't comment on because I am still yet to win a match and I hate PvP in general.
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I’m an introvert but yet I managed to get over five hundred raid completions in destiny 1. Just do it when you’re in the mood for it
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1 ReplyI'm an introvert, when possible I play the game solo. I can sure as hell say I dont regret running any of the raids I ran. I am very glad TTK more or less forced me into running kings fall, and that I continued with the habit into AoT and D2. Mind that...what's the point here? Solo players can easily max out without the raid. If it's to have a "solo raid" or something, that really defeats the point of a raid.
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1 ReplySo then if you are introvert then don't expect to get everything you possibly can from multiplayer game. Buy single player games.