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Edited by Sprouted Quinoa:
4/28/2018 7:33:53 PM
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Re: Introverts - oftentimes they don't even want to talk to FRIENDS
Here's what's been missing from the Introvert/Solo arguments so far: sometimes introverts/solo players don't want to talk to ANYONE, even FRIENDS. They find it TIRING.
What the introverts argue: "There's too many trolls and squeekers, I don't want to deal with randos."
What the extroverts throw back: "You just have to find the right people/clan, we're not all trolls and squeekers!"
And the extroverts are never going to win that argument. Because what the introverts mean is "I don't want to have to chat with ANYONE. I want psychic silence. I don't mind if you're here helping me with this activity in-game, but I don't want to TALK to you about it, or LISTEN to your chatter. Sometimes I'll consent to chat with a small group of friends, and other times I won't. You can't make me, deal with it."
And then give them their damn solo endgame content. Geez, it's equally abnormal to ONLY want to do things in groups. We all need some solo time.
EDIT: Nearly everyone here apparently suffers from poor reading comprehension skills. I'm describing what many extreme introverts go through. I never said I was an introvert. Honestly, some of you are just as bad at making assumptions as Ghaul was when he assumed the Traveler talked to the Speaker.
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11 Repliesmore important why can't we just have in-game matchmaking for everything. the whole thing is absurd and pathetic
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5 RepliesAs a hermitic introvert, I’m here to tell you if you look hard enough, you most certainly can find the right group or clan to play with. It’s on you if you choose to continue to make excuses for why you want to play a co-op game alone and wonder why you don’t get the most out of it.
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Or you could take the smart (not obvious sheep route you're taking) path and not feed into this dumb war shit that people made up to distract themselves from the realization of how bad this game is. You like to play solo? Cool good for you. Idgaf You like to play co-op? Cool good for you. Idgaf You like both??? COOL GOOD FOR YOU. IDGAF Stop making up imaginary problems that don't exist. How about you put your energy towards something important like giving valuable intelligent non sheep mentality feedback on how to make this game better. -blam!- you
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17 RepliesI mean, I wouldn’t necessarily describe myself as an introvert, but usually, if I’m playing a video game, it’s because I want to be left the hell alone. Chatting with people while playing video games completely ruins any sense of immersion and I really miss the days of good, single player experiences.
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Good point
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Why won't we just drop the labels, stickies and boxes and stop creating unnecessary division between players. At the end of the day having a healthy and diverse player base is in the interest of anyone who likes this game and wants to continue playing. Be friendly. Be positive.
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9 RepliesEdited by TheArtist: 4/27/2018 12:09:58 PMIntroverts and extroverts talk PAST each other, because they experience social interaction differently. Extroverts find social interaction **energizing**. So talking to someone at the end of a tiring day is a "pick me up" that makes them feel better. They also like more superficial interactions, because it allows them to feed on the energy. [u][b]Introverts find social interactions energy DRAINING. [/b][/u] So talking to someone at the end of a tiring day only makes them even MORE tired. In order to recharge their batteries, introverts NEED "alone time". If they are going to expend energy on social interaction, they'd rather spend it on deeper, more meaningful interactions with close friends, family and other loved ones. As small talk and other superficial interactions that extroverts enjoy, introverts find irritating and draining. But the reality here, is that there is such a STARK difference in terms of how these social interactions are experienced, that understanding is difficult. I am a mild introvert....but one of the absolute BANES of my existence is the workplace "meeting". A "meeting" is almost always a gather where extroverts pretend to get actual work done, while primarily fulfilling their need for social interaction. While I'm usually sitting there thinking of the dozens of other things I could be doing with that time that would be far more productive.
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I miss GuruSkillz man
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Ya, I’m not much of a talker. I can play in a group with some friends I have no problem, but I still don’t have much to say. I like watching football and sports. I work all day and I’m usually to tired to deal with clan mates.
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Good point
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That edit is extremely cringy. And destiny is a social game so if you want access to the endgame stuff you’re going to have to play with people whoever they maybe but it’s a game that’s mostly supposed to be played as a group. Sure you can play as a lone wolf but it can only get you so far and the developers realize that because besides draining us of our money they also want us to make friends and crap through the game as well as it become apart of you and your friend groups options for hanging out.
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As an introvert myself, I need a lot of time away from people to recharge. It's tough for some to understand, even family members. I do enjoy soloing it up quite a bit.
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3 RepliesIf they don't want to speak then the answer is more simple than you think: - search for other players who [b]do not[/b] want to speak too.
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1 ReplyIm an introvert, but not to this extent. Jeez, this is taking the term introvert to the extreme
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This post... My god, this post... I didn't think anyone understood this. Solo players often don't have the energy to deal with people. 5 other people in raids, 2 others in Trials and Nightfalls. It may not seem like many, but to extreme introverts, the process of dealing with 1 other person is draining enough, but up to 5 others? This is one of the biggest reasons I've not done the Leviathan or EoW. Not because I don't want to, or the challenge is too much, but because the strength it takes me to deal with that amount of people is often not worth trading for the rewards. Pretty weapons and armor aren't worth the fear of saying anything for upwards of an hour. I get this game was designed with a group experience in mind, but there must be a place for solo players within the game. I wholeheartedly support the walling off of max light gear to the endgame, but I do not support that the only endgame activities will only be doable with other players, unless you're one of those psychopaths that can solo a Nightfall.
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This is -blam!-. I'm a huge intro, but I understand the concept of this game, and I'm not going to throw a fit about having to communicate to accomplish a goal... foh with that bull.
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I can relate to it in a way.
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3 RepliesEdited by Durandal: 4/28/2018 11:28:27 PMReal world advice for them from someone who doesn't always like talking to my psn friends or playing multiplayer games: Then go find an actual solo game and play it. Mad max is free on psn for a few days more and actually a pretty good open world solo game. Or build up a collection of solo player games to turn on during those times. Demanding a cooperative-based game cater to you, and using not wanting to talk to people as a crutch (and yeah, this is a crutch you are setting up with your post) is honestly just poor reasoning and quite frankly, dumb.
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Edited by TimonPumbaa13: 4/28/2018 4:32:44 PMHonestly I feel you but at some level this becomes a multiplier game. It’s a shared world game so should be designed that way. Took me a while to get used to that because I wasn’t used to playing via mic and also like solo too a lot of the time. Really there are tons of open world RPG games that aren’t shared world to satisfy this if that’s what you are looking for. I play those when I’m looking for that kind of experience and come back here for something a little more cooperative. Also I get it you want this game to work for that group as well but to some extent a game can’t be everything. That is what went wrong with D2 in the first place. If this is the path they choose then that may be the line on D2 for those that don’t want to play like this.
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The same people who dont want to join groups are the same people either doing a solo public events all day(too bad they still can't make the taken blight heroic) or the people complaining there is nothing to do in destiny, and usually after a quick check, i find they have no raid completions. Im not saying everyone should raid and that the loot will be worth your time for raiding, but destiny being a game thats based around raiding being the end game content, its hard to stay in your introvert shell and not try to reach out and find a good groups of players who you like being with to help you do raids and such. Its funny the amount of people i have found on lfg whom at first join the group claiming they can hear us but cant speak because their mic is broken. Ok, no problem. We get like one encounter into the raid and suddenly the new guys mic is working and hes shooting shit with the rest of us having a good time. TL;DR- always looking at the glass half empty (aka every group of people i find is going to be annoying, squeakers, elitists, or bad players) wont get you anywhere in destiny or life. Try thinking positive and be hopeful because you never know who you might find in a lfg group that might change your perspective of how to play this game.
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1 ReplyI'm not into gaming with friends anymore. Gaming is my "me" time. I want to unwind, not talk to anyone, and release some stress.
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1 ReplyEdited by Grimey Dark: 4/28/2018 6:49:46 AMMan.. You're absolutely right. It gets so tiring having to try to talk so you won't stand out. Or people seeing you as that weird quiet guy. 'Why are you so quiet?' I just don't always like to talk. I love that serene calmness of silence. That's day to day stuff right there. So when I come home I'm totally exhausted most of the times. Even though I do have a €200 headset, I always just say I don't have a mic. I just want my silence I enjoy Destiny though, I just prefer to play solo
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Talking to people in real life can even be tiring.
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6 RepliesEdited by Deathevilmistri: 4/28/2018 7:24:58 AMPlay a solo game then. D2 is a multiplayer game for a reason [spoiler]also wait a bit and let Bungie fix their shit first[/spoiler]
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The odd thing about wanting absolute silence is that you don't really have silence. Sure you don't want to talk to anyone online, but I bet you got youtube going on, while listening to music, while playing the game etc... just like me. 😊 When it comes to raids or whatever, when I play with random, I tend to take a "shut up and play" type thing where I'll only speak up to announce a role or if I need assistance. Other than that, I'm.dead silent. But if I play with friends, I'm loud, dumb and stupid. Go figure. 🤔
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3 RepliesI am an introvert but not because I choose to be. Having both Asbergers Syndrome (socialisation disorder), Obsessive Compulsive Disorder as well as an Anxiety Disorder has made me that way. I do have friends that I play with, when they are on, and even them I am very quiet, but they understand why and don’t ridicule me for it. People on LFG are the exact opposite,
