DMG? Even though you have replaced Cozmo on getting a lot of the salt. Know this, most of it is because of the higher ups. I know I poke fun at Bungie and some don't like it but at least I have common sense to know you have nothing to do with this. You're just doing your job and I do recognize you are making an effort. It's all you can do. I may not like at times what scrips are made for you to post because of the phrases this company has used so many times that it's hard for some to believe, but I do appreciate your effort that I've seen you put so far on this forum. I know, I know. me of all people right? IMO people need to understand that what appears to be hate isn't always what it appears to be. It's frustration that some don't know how to express at times in a matter that some would like to see. (This is Only my opinion.) I don't believe for one minute that gamers asked for what has been offered since D2 released. What's making it hard for some gamers is the fact that Bungie uses phrase like "we're listening" so much that it has become a joke on this forum for gamers to laugh at knowing their actions show otherwise. You said on a update you created that (you know Bungies trust need to be earned) Let me ask you something. How can that actually take place when Bungie keeps making the same mistakes or whatever anyone wants to call it, and have been since D1 released in 2014? Trust isn't something that is given so easily especially after what has taken place since D2 released. I don't don't need to list what has actually taken place because this forum, Reddit, top streamers that have given up on this game and the world wide net that Bungie can't hide from. As I said in another thread on your post.... Action speaks louder then words. Until gamers see that action it's going to be really hard for a lot of gamers to believe what has been said will take place as it's said. Especially when things like random rolls doesn't necessary mean as it's put out to be knowing how Bungie likes changing things at the last minute or doesn't actually give a clear picture on what certain things actually mean. Making promises at this point as I said before is not a good thing. One has to learn how to keep a promise before actually making one. Main reason for that, it's setting up oneself when it comes to disappointment's being throw right back at oneself. Bungie has said sorry so many times for their deliberate poor actions that it has become them saying..."I'm sorry, but can you please let me do it again"? IMO this needs to stop and this company needs to form an actual form of communication. Other companies do it by using things like... Small surveys Creating videos going into actual detail about info gamers have been asking for. This, well, um, "we have a plan" "We have some info that will talk more about latter" "We been looking into new things and or team has some new ideas that we can't share now but they got a good grip on it" Umm, what new things? What new ideas? Got a grip on what again that they keep saying they can't share right now? This kind of info doesn't work and to say tune into next week for more info for more of the same response that they been doing since 2014 needs to change. That is not any form of communication. That is only saying we have Nothing to share, and Nothing more. This doesn't work at all and as long as things keep heading this was. Things will never change. I don't think gamers want this to stay the way it is. They want Bungie to actually listen to what is actually being ask for and IMO they should give a little leeway when it comes to this. Show the player base that they know how to actually communicate with them. That is what is being asked for more then anything else right now.

[quote] battle new enemies.[/quote] Please clarify what that means. Does that mean variants on vanilla enemies like Taken Hive,Fallen,Cabal and Vex or Splicer Fallen. Or , and this is a big or, does that mean what it should, does "New" actually mean a new race, like Siva Frames or Corrupt Exos. Just a warning, if new turns out to be a different color Vex,Cabal,Hive or Fallen. Enemies we have been killing ad nauseum for 4 years , then you will face a huge backlash. But in the same token, if there is a legit new enemy race , then that will be huge and will make this an exciting DLC.

What I am curious about is how we're basically going to get stuck paying for the weapon slot changes and random rolls. I'm sure they will be included in a some "free update," but that doesn't mean anything when there will be a Taken King sized DLC around the same time. I'm perfectly fine paying for new content especially if it improves the game. My issue is that weapon slot changes and random rolls are without a doubt the most asked for change by the community and by the time we finally get them we'll be force to play old content or fork out the money for the new DLC. So many people cry about how this stuff should have been in the game from the beginning meanwhile Bungie will basically be twisting our arms into spending money for those changes to have any real effect on our gameplay experience. There's zero chance Bungie will give anything for free but I just don't know how they can justify me "throwing money at my screen" after everything that has happened since D2's release. Edit: Before people freak out I have 2500+ hours on D1 and played everyday after D2 release until the CoO. I wanted Destiny to be good. I also don't want to shell out more money to a company that employed so my money grabbing techniques they got called out by their own community.

Weapon randomization. You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means. [spoiler]For real though, you (Bungie) have proven time after time that the way you define issues differs greatly from the way the community defines them. We are going to need some clarification. [/spoiler]

Can we please worry about PvE more than crucible? Thanks

I love how most not all of the Destiny streamers came back largely to stream D2 since they are getting a paid vacation to go to the streamer summit this week. I don’t include them all in this statement because I actually have seen some invited who still haven’t been back on D2.

Why is a dlc's main selling point quality of life changes. Are you selling us fixes to your broken game?

Lol even Sea of Thieves has a better roadmap 😂😂😂

You’re only fooling yourself if you expect players to pay 160euros to eventually and finally be able to play a dumbed down and downgraded version of destiny 1. You are liars and thieves. I’m sure there’s a good couple of million sheep that will fall for your tricks/baits in September, I mean destiny is the only game they can play and feel like they aren’t that trash, but don’t expect the non beggars and non scrubs to bend over for you. We trusted you with D2, and you only -blam!- us in return. Now taste the downside, and put your next paywall up your butt!

[quote]to restore Destiny 2 to the hobby we all love.[/quote] It's called Destiny 1...