Bungie forced out the only true talent they had and the wrong people have been slowly ruining Destiny from the beginning. With Destiny 2 they got to ruin it right from the off.

The truth. Destiny was never really all that great to begin with. It’s just that nostalgia has lead to one of the biggest instances of selective memory combined with a touch of Stockholm syndrome. Tell me, was it really fun doing the nightfall and raid 3 times a week while praying to RNGesus to bless you with the gjallarhorn? Sure. There was a level of challenge that provided engagement. But was it really fun to do these things while you were likely using every cheese and exploit you could just to stay alive? Was it really all that fun when you played the crucible and someone poked you in the head twice with a certain hand cannon and then ducked behind a corner to laugh as you watched your health bar slowly be reduced to nothing? Or how about when you were killed by someone pretending to be mcree when they double tapped you with the last word? (By the way, it was “noon”) And who can forget the times when double shotgun was a legitimate strategy? This of course paired with questionable balance changes, bugs that went unpatched for months at a time, and a story that was barely even a third of its former self at launch. Destiny wasn’t quite so awesome as you remember. But it was still a good game. With good gunplay and good music. And some pretty good AI too.

Luke Smith Activision Greed Poor writers

I have no idea why a lot of the comments are term paper size and blaming Bungie because it really is a simple answer. The reason why it's different is because of this very forum. You guys cried and complained for the last three years and Bungie did what you guys cried about. Yes, it's really that simple.

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Imo, they've strayed too far from the incredibly addictive synergy between end-game activities in year 1: -Raid to get rare, powerful, well-designed weapons and armor -Use the raid weapons (elemental primaries) to wreak havoc in Nightfall and gain further high-level rewards, including a chance at receiving the elusive Gjallarhorn. -Additionally, end-game weapons and armor offered genuinely better items than what were available through normal play, giving players a motivation to seek said rewards. That's my take.

Luke Smith + Activision deadline + 16 month reboot + remove content to make game easier to balance and meet deadline = D2.. Thats why D2 feels like an incomplete shell of a game, hope it helps.

That is the question that nobody knows the answer to, it seams not even Bungie know the answer, I don't think it's one thing, it's a multitude of bad design decisions that can't be rectified or Bungie refuse or have no clue how to rectify them. Take the new plans for nightfall and raids. Nightfall scoring and Raid locked load out mode (Bungie tell you which weapons to use) these are terrible ideas Imo. You won't have to do the scoring or add on the mods, but if you want the rewards (emblem) you are up against the clock. Locked Raid loadout's were Bungie tell you what weapons you have to use, example- side arm, sub machine gun, shot gun. Do that and you get the reward (emblem). This in my opinion is not content, its not more challenging or different, intense or complicated encounters/mechanics, its not better, more tactical, Hart pumping fights, its false difficulty and Bungie enforcing how you play their game. If you want the NF reward you have to rush through like crazy', you want the Raid reward you can't use the weapons you like or want to use to get through a challenging encounter, it's, Imo, a poor, knee jerk try at making poor encounters better, but it just isn't. I logged on D1 a few days ago to compare Nightfalls which I used to solo now and again, it was/is Dark blade with void burn, brawler, airborne and epic, it was brilliant, you had to think about your skill tree, your grenade, weapons, and tactics, the enemys are very strong but with the right load out my character felt just as powerful. All in all, no timer, my ability to change my skills and a few mods made the encounter loads of fun and satisfying, I didn't even care about the rewards because I dont need them. I think Bungie has either forgot, lost the capability or, just lost touch with making a game like that again at the moment

What happened was Bungie lied and said they had a ten year plan for destiny 1... Then thought about it and realized they couldnt make money like that so they made a second game thats just the first one with different people, same story, just different voice actors. This is why i play off my friends xbox, i wont pay these asshats for anything. My friend can, and ill keep playing for free.